Wishing to be a monster race


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So Ithink its obvious that wishing to be an elf, as a human, is fine within the spells limits. I'm talking about monster races. Also, what should be the limit if its ok. Personally I can see trading out some of your hd equal to the CR as suggested for "starting " as a monster race. The thing is, a genie with a couple wizard levels is stillquestionable but a reasonable aspiration all the same.

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Aw i thought this was about what monster we the player wanted to be....


Ill hear out any ideas of that nature as well. Why not? What race/reason and what class levels would u use to supplement the race. The creatures CR and class levels can not exceed a total of 20 when added together for the purpose of this exercise.


For the spell Wish, cast by a PC, I'd limit it to basic races. A wish granted by a genie, or demon/devil, or a mighty artifact I'd allow much greater latitude. Although those sources also tend to be more costly, or less trustworthy.

The idea of a PC becoming a monster race doesn't bother me though. In fact, I had a transmutation device in one campaign that allowed exactly that.


basically the spell if comming out safely will apply pokymorph any object. more or less that is what would happen if you wished to be an elf. if the wish is "i want to be an aboleth' it likely falls under the

You may try to use a wish to produce greater effects than these, but doing so is dangerous. (The wish may pervert your intent into a literal but undesirable fulfillment or only a partial fulfillment, at the GM's discretion.)

portion of the spell which can really lead to stuff like no longer having a characyer and is best avoided.


I wouldn't think it'd be too outside the purviews of Wish. At the very least, that would be like replicating Reincarnate and just accessing the new body immediately.


aceDiamond wrote:
I wouldn't think it'd be too outside the purviews of Wish. At the very least, that would be like replicating Reincarnate and just accessing the new body immediately.

only if u choose a pc race. This is about monster races. personally in response to those who consider the idea outside the purview of the spell or potentially worthy of scrapping a character sheet, how come u didn't address my mention of the "official" playing as a monster rules? Id like discussion on that point even if it means less than hopeful answers still arise.

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