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Does "Hard Minded (Ex): A rogue with this talent is hard to fool with mind-affecting effects. At the start of her turn, if she is still subject to any mind-affecting spells or effects, she can make a Will saving throw with a standard DC for the effect's level, and if she succeeds at the check, she is no longer subject to the mind-affecting effect. She can make this saving throw even against mind-affecting effects that normally don't allow a saving throw. In those cases, generate the saving throw as if the spell or effect did allow a saving throw."
Counter "Mirror Image
School illusion (figment); Level bard 2, sorcerer/wizard 2
Casting Time 1 standard action
Components V, S
Range personal
Target you
Duration 1 min./level
This spell creates a number of illusory doubles of you that inhabit your square. These doubles make it difficult for enemies to precisely locate and attack you.
When mirror image is cast, 1d4 images plus one image per three caster levels (maximum eight images total) are created. These images remain in your space and move with you, mimicking your movements, sounds, and actions exactly. Whenever you are attacked or are the target of a spell that requires an attack roll, there is a possibility that the attack targets one of your images instead. If the attack is a hit, roll randomly to see whether the selected target is real or a figment. If it is a figment, the figment is destroyed. If the attack misses by 5 or less, one of your figments is destroyed by the near miss. Area spells affect you normally and do not destroy any of your figments. Spells and effects that do not require an attack roll affect you normally and do not destroy any of your figments. Spells that require a touch attack are harmlessly discharged if used to destroy a figment.
An attacker must be able to see the figments to be fooled. If you are invisible or the attacker is blind, the spell has no effect (although the normal miss chances still apply).
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???? Since illusions are mind affecting spells, and this is clearly an illusion spell, is the Hard Minded Rogue allowed a save every round to ignore the duplicates, despite there being no save to the casting of the spell?
This spell is not a mind affecting spell. Otherwise it would have the tag. Figments are not mind affecting, they are images.
The talent is not goint to help against this one. It's not an hallucination, it's an ologram.
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"Figment: a figment spell creates a false sensation" - um... a false sensation is a mind-affecting thing isn't it? Further "Illusion Illusion spells deceive the senses or minds of others." OK. so it deceives the senses, not the mind...
"Saving Throws and Illusions (Disbelief): Creatures encountering an illusion usually do not receive saving throws to recognize it as illusory until they study it carefully or interact with it in some fashion.
A successful saving throw against an illusion reveals it to be false, but a figment or phantasm remains as a translucent outline.
A failed saving throw indicates that a character fails to notice something is amiss. A character faced with proof that an illusion isn't real needs no saving throw. If any viewer successfully disbelieves an illusion and communicates this fact to others, each such viewer gains a saving throw with a +4 bonus."
Seeing 2-7 of someone would be a dead giveaway that they created an illusion and allow a save, wouldn't it? So characters get a save if they have seen this before and / or think something is amis, anyway... seems to me.
The question, of course, is what does "study it carefully" and/or "interact with it in some fashion" mean? Say "hello, nice spell."?
"Mind-Affecting" is a game mechanic and so the spell must say it in the description to be "Mind-Affecting." Not all illusions are "Mind-Affecting" spells.
Mirror Image is an Illusion (Figment) spell so it is not "Mind-Affecting" it is more like "Eye-Affecting". In fact the way around it is to close your eyes if there are more than two images and you have a better chance hitting with the 50% miss chance. Of course a rogue could not normally sneak attack in that case.
Anyway, look at the specific spell and see if a save is allowed. In the case of Mirror Image it is not, so there is no opportunity to disbelieve it. I am sorry but your rogue will just have to deal with the images and work from there.
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Hendelbolaf: I disagree, a rogue can "study it carefully" and/or "interact with it in some fashion" to get a save, because they know IMMEDIATELY that it is an illusion (five identical guys standing in the same area doing the same things = cheap level 2 mage spell).
Or are you stating that no matter how long they do this, because there is no mention of a save, that nobody ever gets a save against this spell... ever... a cheap level 2 spell affords mages 50-80% cover (basically)... OK. I can roll with that in a fashion RAW. Doesn't state they get a save, so they don't, even if they A) know its an illusion, and B) interact with it. That is the nature of Mirror Image.
(Of course, my blindfighting rogue just closes his eyes and goes to town on the mage.... lolz... or starts throwing oil bombs... but that is another story).
Yes, that is the nature and the beauty of Mirror Image, don't leave home without it!
Also, pound for pound, Blindfighting is one of the best feats out there. It looses some weight once you pick up Uncanny Dodge but it is still worthy of taking, especially if you want to pick up Greater and Improved versions of it. Still, Uncanny Dodge takes some of the wind out of those sails as well.
Try the I go to attack and I close my eyes bit. It works and when your attack sequence is over, just open your eyes. If a 2nd level spell can stop you down, show the wizard how a free action with your eyes can overcome his spells. There is still the issue of no sneak attack with concealment and closing your eyes grants him concealment. Overcome that and you are golden!
Yes, I think the combo of making closing your eyes not total concealment and Shadow Strike would work wonderfully.
Also, I think the area affect spell would have to be one that rolled to hit on each of the images. A Fireball for example would not do it.