Feat Retraining: Moving Feats


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Grand Lodge

I've got a bit of an odd question.

So I have a Fighter Feat I decided I no longer want and a Non-Fighter Feat I decided I want instead.

Basically my list looks like this (in the order of selection)

No Restriction Feat: Feat A
Fighter Bonus Feat: Feat B
No Restriction Feat: Feat C
Fighter Bonus Feat: Feat D

We will call the Feat I want to replace Feat D with Feat E

Feat A could qualify to be a Fighter Bonus Feat and is a Pre-Requisite for Feat D

Feat B is not a pre-requisite for anything but I want to keep it.

Feat C: a pre-requisite for my desired Feat E

Feat D: The Feat I want to remove

How can I do this?

I am assuming it will take retraining a minimum of twice. Once to replace A with E while at the same time replacing D with A.

If I can't replace at the same time, the only other option I see is to retrain 3 times:

First, replace D with any other fighter feat (Feat F)

Replace A with E

Replace Feat F with Feat A.

Would this be the only way.

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In the process of looking up my feats and when I took them, I just noticed I have A and B swapped, I receive them both at the same level due to one level of Cleric and looking at my original feat plan it lists Feat A as being selected as the Bonus Fighter Feat and Feat B as being the Non-Restricted Feat selection that could be a Fighter Feat.

This means I can retrain twice, First replacing B with E then D with B.

I would still like to hear what options I have in the first instance despite finding it isn't my current situation as such a situation is bound to come up.

Am I reading the rules correctly?

On a side note, for me it is important to know how many times I have to retrain as this is for PFS, gold isn't an issue but Days translate to the much more limited Prestige at one per day of training.


Keep in mind that you have two methods of retraining - the retraining rules from UCamp (which require a time and gold investment) and the retraining rules for fighter bonus feats, which happens instantaneously. Are you performing the retraining at a level that's a multiple of 4 (when the Fighter retraining can occur automatically)? If so, that might open up more options.

Silver Crusade RPG Superstar 2014 Top 32

Retrain A for E using the Ultimate Campaign retraining rules. Next time you gain a 4x Fighter level, you can retrain D to A, or just take A the next chance you get?

Grand Lodge

I just missed my retraining at level 8, so not happening with a free one.

Silver Crusade RPG Superstar 2014 Top 32

Talk to your GM. You really only want to "retrain" one Feat, the rest is bookkeeping as to just which slots the feats fall into.

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