| Fig |
Any thoughts?
I was thinking of creating one for a Rise of the Runelords game. The campaign is largely unrelated to the overall question.
Halfling Cavalier (Order of the Lion [to be a team player]) for the first 2 or so levels, then a level of Nature Oracle for Bonded Mount (haunted curse, and Extra Revelation for Whispers of Nature). Cavalier levels until 8 or 9, then Mammoth Rider.
The halfling would be melee with a flanking buddy, and basically acting as the bard. Given the Bonded Mount, I was thinking of both the mount and me taking Step Up or teamwork feats more generally.
I suppose I would need to keep a wolf throughout the life of the character, though I like the idea of riding a huge wolf. Actually, can I take a different sort of mount because of the Mammoth Rider levels?
STR 16 (-2) = 14
DEX 8 (+2) = 10
CON 14 (+0) = 14
INT 12 (+0) = 12
WIS 10 (+0) = 10
CHA 14 (+2) = 16
| XMorsX |
Unlesss I am mistaken, your Oracle mount wil not progress, so what is teh point of the dip, other than Cha to AC?
Also, bear in mind that at RotRl you fight a lot in confined places and mounted combat does not work that well, unless you plan on being small. Which you do, until you enter Mammoth Rider into the mix. I suggest that you avoid it and stay with a medium wolf (which will eventually become large anyway).
| Fig |
Thanks for the response, XMorsX.
Both them give an effective druid level equal to their respective class levels, so I will always have a AC/Mount equal to my character level. Really, the reason I would take the level in Oracle is so the mount has an intelligence of 6, and can then take any feats right off the bat.
I'll have to look into how the mount and bonded mount interact.
| XMorsX |
Thanks for the response, XMorsX.
Both them give an effective druid level equal to their respective class levels, so I will always have a AC/Mount equal to my character level. Really, the reason I would take the level in Oracle is so the mount has an intelligence of 6, and can then take any feats right off the bat.
I'll have to look into how the mount and bonded mount interact.
You are welcome.
Unless your GM told you that it will work that way in his campaign, this is not the case. The class features scale with class levels and not character lvls. Meaning that if you multiclass with one lvl of Oracle you will end up with two seperate animal companions, one at your character level -1 and another at lvl 1.
| Fig |
Wait, you have me confused. Both bonded mount and mount function "as a druid’s animal companion, using [the appropriate class] level as your effective druid level."
Also, this FAQ listing:
Cavalier: Do animal companion levels from the druid class stack with cavalier mount levels?
If the animal is on the cavalier mount list and on the list of animal companions for your other class, your cavalier and druid levels stack to determine the animal's abilities. If the animal is not on the cavalier mount list, the druid levels do not stack and you must have different animals (one an animal companion, one a cavalier mount).
For example, if you are Medium druid and you choose a horse companion, levels in cavalier stack to determine the horse's abilities. If you are a Medium druid and you choose a bird companion, levels in cavalier do not stack to determine the bird's abilities, and you must choose a second creature to be your mount (or abandon the bird and select an animal companion you can use as a mount).
This same answer applies to multiclassed cavalier/rangers.
(Note that the design team discourages players from having more than one companion creature at a time, as those creatures tend to be much weaker than a single creature affected by these stacking rules, and add to the bookkeeping for playing that character.)
| XMorsX |
Wait, you have me confused. Both bonded mount and mount function "as a druid’s animal companion, using [the appropriate class] level as your effective druid level."
Also, this FAQ listing:
FAQ wrote:Cavalier: Do animal companion levels from the druid class stack with cavalier mount levels?
If the animal is on the cavalier mount list and on the list of animal companions for your other class, your cavalier and druid levels stack to determine the animal's abilities. If the animal is not on the cavalier mount list, the druid levels do not stack and you must have different animals (one an animal companion, one a cavalier mount).
For example, if you are Medium druid and you choose a horse companion, levels in cavalier stack to determine the horse's abilities. If you are a Medium druid and you choose a bird companion, levels in cavalier do not stack to determine the bird's abilities, and you must choose a second creature to be your mount (or abandon the bird and select an animal companion you can use as a mount).
This same answer applies to multiclassed cavalier/rangers.
(Note that the design team discourages players from having more than one companion creature at a time, as those creatures tend to be much weaker than a single creature affected by these stacking rules, and add to the bookkeeping for playing that character.)
Your druid lvls would certainly stack. Reading it again, I could be wrong about the wolf. I really did not expect such a ruling. If I am wrong, go ahead and multiclass. But I still suggest to avoid dipping trhe Mammoth rider for the reasons I mentioned above.
| Mathius |
I have caviler in my game and he has a custom amulet of reduce animal for his mount. It is handy to have large got to medium but by the time you get a large mount there are a lot of large creatures to fight so they work. Huge might be more difficult.
Wheeling charge is your best friend in the form of a feat because it allows you to charge through allies along with one turn. If your mount can get charge through it can help as well.