In general, an item has to have the +1 or whatever bonus it has as part of the actual item name to be upgradable.
So "+2 Chainmail" or "Bracers of Armor +3" would be upgradeable, but "Folding Plate" or "Cloak of Elvenkind" would not, even if they are noted as having a plus in the description.
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Could we get some sources on this? This is an issue I'm curious about as well, and I'd like to look at the PFS rules for this but not sure where they'd be found.
How about the FAQ on the subject?
Can I Upgrade a Named Magic Item?
Named magic items—including specific armor and specific weapons—are not upgradeable. Non-magic specific armor and specific weapons may be upgraded normally. Magic armor and weapons may be upgraded to named versions if they are the same basic material and shape as, and meet but do not exceed the enhancement bonuses of the named versions. Wondrous items whose names include a +X value (such as bracers of armor, headband of vast intelligence, amulet of might fists, etc.) may also be upgraded following the rules for upgrading magical items on page 19 of the Guide to Pathfinder Society Organized Play.
Upgraded versions of named magic items may appear on Chronicle sheets.
Intelligent magic items are not available for purchase unless they appear on a Chronicle sheet or are provided as part of a class or archetype (such as the black blade magus archetype).
Note Folding Plate is listed under Specific Magic Armor in the Ultimate Equipment PRD.
So, as a magic item that is a specific armor, it can not be upgraded or have its base material changed in PFS.
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Could we get some sources on this? This is an issue I'm curious about as well, and I'd like to look at the PFS rules for this but not sure where they'd be found.How about the FAQ on the subject?
Can I Upgrade a Named Magic Item?
Named magic items—including specific armor and specific weapons—are not upgradeable. Non-magic specific armor and specific weapons may be upgraded normally. Magic armor and weapons may be upgraded to named versions if they are the same basic material and shape as, and meet but do not exceed the enhancement bonuses of the named versions. Wondrous items whose names include a +X value (such as bracers of armor, headband of vast intelligence, amulet of might fists, etc.) may also be upgraded following the rules for upgrading magical items on page 19 of the Guide to Pathfinder Society Organized Play.
Upgraded versions of named magic items may appear on Chronicle sheets.
Intelligent magic items are not available for purchase unless they appear on a Chronicle sheet or are provided as part of a class or archetype (such as the black blade magus archetype).
Note Folding Plate is listed under Specific Magic Armor in the Ultimate Equipment PRD.
So, as a magic item that is a specific armor, it can not be upgraded or have its base material changed in PFS.
Much appreciated - just what I was looking for. Thank you!
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That is seriously disappointing. +1 Fullplate is fairely nice for levels 4-7, but after that you simply need better armor, but at those levels you would be hard pressed to afford the Folding Plate.
I wanted to be Iron Man dern'it!
Agreed. Just another casualty of the necessity of organized play rules. Oh well...
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Zack,
Are you actually making a PFS Iron Man? If so I'd be curious as to your concept. I'm going mostly magus though I did take 1 level of fighter for heavy armor. At the moment I'm only 3rd but I have my Mark 2 Armor (mwk full plate). I use a wand of Magic Missile for my "repulsers" and took magic linage (Burning hands) and still spell as a flame thrower. I mostly use flare with spell combat, along with gauntlets & unarmed strike.
Its not a very powerful build but none of my characters are. Right now I mostly act as a shield for more squish PC but at 8th I'll have saved enough for mithral full plate and be able to fully cast spells (including fly). I'll probably keep my Mark 2 armor and turn it into folding plate when I can afford it, something to have as a back up during more social scenarios.
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Zack,
Are you actually making a PFS Iron Man? If so I'd be curious as to your concept. I'm going mostly magus though I did take 1 level of fighter for heavy armor. At the moment I'm only 3rd but I have my Mark 2 Armor (mwk full plate). I use a wand of Magic Missile for my "repulsers" and took magic linage (Burning hands) and still spell as a flame thrower. I mostly use flare with spell combat, along with gauntlets & unarmed strike.
Its not a very powerful build but none of my characters are. Right now I mostly act as a shield for more squish PC but at 8th I'll have saved enough for mithral full plate and be able to fully cast spells (including fly). I'll probably keep my Mark 2 armor and turn it into folding plate when I can afford it, something to have as a back up during more social scenarios.
Not personally, I just loved the concept of Folding plate and being able to always prance around in my Andoran Officers Uniform, and then "suit up" without the whole glammored thing.
Several of us talking outside the shop had a PFS concept of the avengers though:
- Fighter/Magus in Folding Plate with weapon wand permanence (permanency is legal but you can only have one cast) in gauntlets = Iron Man
- Zen Archer = Hawkeye
- Fighter/Cleric with Storm Domain and Throwing, Returning Warhammer= Thor
- Shieldmaster Fighter with Throwing Returning Adamantine Heavy steel Shield = Captain Andoran
- Knife Master Rogue = Black Widow
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Cite please.(permanency is legal but you can only have one cast)
Was probably thinking of this:
A character may have one each of the following spells that carries overs from scenario to scenario: continual flame, masterwork transformation, secret chest, and secret page.
Yep. This is what I was thinking of.
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Could we get some sources on this? This is an issue I'm curious about as well, and I'd like to look at the PFS rules for this but not sure where they'd be found.How about the FAQ on the subject?
Can I Upgrade a Named Magic Item?
Named magic items—including specific armor and specific weapons—are not upgradeable. Non-magic specific armor and specific weapons may be upgraded normally. Magic armor and weapons may be upgraded to named versions if they are the same basic material and shape as, and meet but do not exceed the enhancement bonuses of the named versions. Wondrous items whose names include a +X value (such as bracers of armor, headband of vast intelligence, amulet of might fists, etc.) may also be upgraded following the rules for upgrading magical items on page 19 of the Guide to Pathfinder Society Organized Play.
Upgraded versions of named magic items may appear on Chronicle sheets.
Intelligent magic items are not available for purchase unless they appear on a Chronicle sheet or are provided as part of a class or archetype (such as the black blade magus archetype).
Note Folding Plate is listed under Specific Magic Armor in the Ultimate Equipment PRD.
So, as a magic item that is a specific armor, it can not be upgraded or have its base material changed in PFS.
Emphasis mine on something I did not know. So this means, for example, if I had a +1 Trident, I can actually upgrade it to a Fighter's Fork. Neat.
