Sahuagin, coastal raiding and aqautic subtype


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I'm planning to run the sunken pyramid adventure and the first encounter is a raid on a coastal village.

My question is aquatic subtypes if they are not amphiboous can't breathe air so how long can they survive out of water?

Am I thinking you just reverse the rules for drowning?


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Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber; Starfinder Charter Superscriber

Well I haven't used Sahuagin in Pathfinder yet so I had not realized that there was a major omission from 3.5 D&D to Pathfinder. In 3.5 they had Water Dependent under Special Qualities and this allowed them to leave water for short periods of time, one hour per two points of Constitution. This made them great underwater and still effective on ships or coastal towns.

Sahaugin have always been able to spend time on land ever since I first ran into them in 1st edition AD&D in the module The Final Enemy (part three of the Saltmarsh series). It seems like they would be greatly hampered as an enemy if they started drowning the moment they came out of the water.

I would run with them the Water Dependent quality if I were the DM but that is not in the rules per their entry in the Bestiary. In lieu of that you do what you said and just run the rules per suffocation and allow them 2 rounds per point of Constitution.


Thanks, I have had a look at the d20 srd and I see the water dependacy rule. I think I will use this as it makes more sense for coastal raiding parties. The Aquatic subtype rules don't make sense for this kind of monster who are known for these raids.


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Pathfinder Lost Omens Subscriber

This is a question which has been asked elsewhere and given the way Paizo used Sahuagin in the Skull and Shackles adventure path, i think there must be an omission in the Bestiary 1 entry and the further details in the Bestiary section in Raiders of the Fever Sea. Perhaps we should suggest this as an FAQ candidate, because as things stand, Sahuagin can't survive out of water (aquatic, but no amphibious SQ) and clearly they do survive fighting battles on ships in the AP


Pathfinder Starfinder Society Subscriber

Back in AD&D 1E, sahuagin could survive out of water for about 4 hours. It looks as though 3E raised that to 6 hours (1 point per 2 points of Con with an average Con of 12) and Pathfinder forgot to import the relevant rule.

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