Chainmail is a +6 and is medium armor, a type for which Rogues lack proficiency. I'm assuming you mean chain shirt, which is light armor and is a +4 to AC.
However, a chain shirt also only allows you to retain +4 maximum from your DEX bonus to AC (it'd have to be enhanced - made of mithral, for isntance - to allow +6 DEX to AC).
Two-weapon defense also will not stack with the Shield* spell, as they both provide a shield bonus to AC.**
So assuming that it's a standard chain shirt, he should only have a 27 AC: 10 base, +4 (chain shirt) + 4 (DEX bonus) +1 (Dodge) +1 (small size) +3 (ring of protection) +4 (Shield spell) = 27.
If it's a mithral chain shirt, he'd have a 29 (as he'd get 2 extra points from his DEX).
As to whether that's high or not - yeah, it is - even with the corrected math. Average creature AC at 7th is 20; average player AC is roughly 2-4 points above that.
*You said "mage shield spell". I'm assuming you mean Shield. If you mean Mage Armor (a different spell) then in fact his AC would less, because Mage Armor grants an armor bonus, which would not stack with the armor from his chain shirt*.
**Only dodge bonuses, untyped bonuses, and circumstance bonuses (from different sources) generally stack. Two different shield bonuses from different sources will not stack; you'll gain the benefit from the higher of the two.
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Those do all seem to stack. AC 30 is not outrageous at level 7. In fact, lots of level-appropriate foes can hit that without rolling a 20.
How does he get the Shield spell? There are various ways, but he must cast it. Shield is a self-only spell.
I can't imagine any rogue being over-powered at any level. This one certainly is not. Foes will (rightly) be inclined to just ignore him, in order to concentrate on the far-more-dangerous casters. There are several on-going threads on this board trying to find a way to make Rogues at least competitive.
Having a 30 AC gives this l'il guy an edge. He'll need it.
Magda...you should probably try reading all the responses, especially when there is only one, before you respond. They don't all stack, as was pointed out.
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Magda...you should probably try reading all the responses, especially when there is only one, before you respond. They don't all stack, as was pointed out.
Obviously there was some time overlap. From my perspective I was the first poster. I just now saw the other 2 posts. My apologies for being wrong.
The realisation that my group in Shattered Star is dirt poor...
I'm not sure if I agree with aiming for high AC as a rogue is right but then again once they flank they do lots of damage.
My rogue at level 7 has AC 29
AC 10 + 8 (Mithril breastplate +2) + 4 (dex) + 1 (dodge) + 1 (ring protection +1) + 1 (amulet natural armor +1) + 4 (shield spell from major magic) Total 29
Total money spent on AC (12.2k)
A rogue doesn't normally have medium armor proficiency.
Breastplate is a medium armor. Being made from mithral doesn't change that.
Mithral: Mithral is a very rare silvery, glistening metal that is lighter than steel but just as hard. When worked like steel, it becomes a wonderful material from which to create armor, and is occasionally used for other items as well. Most mithral armors are one category lighter than normal for purposes of movement and other limitations. Heavy armors are treated as medium, and medium armors are treated as light, but light armors are still treated as light. This decrease does not apply to proficiency in wearing the armor. A character wearing mithral full plate must be proficient in wearing heavy armor to avoid adding the armor's check penalty to all his attack rolls and skill checks that involve moving. Spell failure chances for armors and shields made from mithral are decreased by 10%, maximum Dexterity bonuses are increased by 2, and armor check penalties are decreased by 3 (to a minimum of 0).
The only possibility to make that work is to decrease the armor check penalty to zero (because mithral) before applying it to attack rolls (because not proficient), but I think it's debatable and I can see many a GM not allowing it.
Mithril Breastplate + a trait (Armor Expert) means an ACP of 0. It's a fairly common 'trick' but perfectly legal.
What about AC from other sources? Has anyone used (or had players that used...or tried to) Table 15-29 on pg 550 of the CRB that estimates item costs in order to have something custom made? The cost of "AC(other)" is base 2500 instead of 2000 from Deflection or Natural. So there is a cost involved, but stacking Luck, Insight, Sacred, etc would contribute to a very high (possibly game breaking) AC once afforded.
One thing I don't see anyone commenting much on is that this rogue has a ring of protection +3, cost of 18,000 gp, at 7th level, when level 7 expected Wealth By Level is only 23,500 gp.
How did this happen?
If he built the character at level 7, the gamemastery guidelines recommend that
Table: Character Wealth by Level can also be used to budget gear for characters starting above 1st level, such as a new character created to replace a dead one. Characters should spend no more than half their total wealth on any single item. For a balanced approach, PCs that are built after 1st level should spend no more than 25% of their wealth on weapons, 25% on armor and protective devices, 25% on other magic items, 15% on disposable items like potions, scrolls, and wands, and 10% on ordinary gear and coins. Different character types might spend their wealth differently than these percentages suggest; for example, arcane casters might spend very little on weapons but a great deal more on other magic items and disposable items.
(emphasis mine)
If he leveled to 7 organically, and bought the ring... did he sell all his other gear, to buy this? (Remember that magic loot is sold at half price!) Does he have a magic weapon, even?
A character who bends or breaks wealth guidelines will surely be at least a bit over-the-top in at least some ways. That's why the guidelines are there.
The point being Makhno that the ring of protection +3 is not an optimal choice for AC anyway, so him spending entirely too much of his WBL on it was most likely not the case, its more likely the party found it as loot which can happen rarely but most likely the GM is dropping more loot than one would expect on a PC.
Making his Armor +3, Ring +1, Amulet +1 = +5 AC for a cost of 13k so you actually save 5k gold and get +2 AC.
Yeah, that's also true.