Wild Arcana / Scribe Scroll

[Hapless Mage]

Can you use the Wild Arcana ability to scribe a scroll for a spell that you do not know?

I would rule this as a "no" because the Wild Arcana ability lets you essensially change one of your spells into something else, but you never actually knew the spell, you were just able to change yours into something else.

What do you guys think?

(P.S. I think the person that asked me this is using it as an end around to never have to pay full price for scrolls, just scribe the scroll with the wild arcana ability and then write it into his spellbook)

[Hapless Mage]

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[Clectabled]

Hapless Mage wrote:

Can you use the Wild Arcana ability to scribe a scroll for a spell that you do not know?

I would rule this as a "no" because the Wild Arcana ability lets you essensially change one of your spells into something else, but you never actually knew the spell, you were just able to change yours into something else.

What do you guys think?

(P.S. I think the person that asked me this is using it as an end around to never have to pay full price for scrolls, just scribe the scroll with the wild arcana ability and then write it into his spellbook)

It's not swapping a spell out, cause you could use this if you were out of spells. It is funding the power of the spell through the use of mythic power.

But by RAW, no he cannot do it

Scribe Scroll:

The creator must have prepared the spell to be scribed (or must know the spell, in the case of a sorcerer or bard) and must provide any material component or focus the spell requires. A material component is consumed when she begins writing, but a focus is not. (A focus used in scribing a scroll can be reused.) The act of writing triggers the prepared spell, making it unavailable for casting until the character has rested and regained spells. (That is, that spell slot is expended from the caster's currently prepared spells, just as if it had been cast.)

He HAS to know or have the spell prepared, not just the ability to cast it.

However I would let him try it with a spell or two and come up with some wild magic result. ( A Wall of Butterflies instead of a Wall of Stone.)

A Spellcraft check ( around a DC 15 + 2x Spell Level) after the fact will show him the errors in the spell and if he wants to try it again. He could re-scribe the scroll and re scribe it into his spellbook. ( In effect he would have to pay for the scroll and then scribing it into the spellbook twice.