Mythic Ruling Questions: Mythic Spell Power and Divine Source

[Matthew Small 39]

My Group Has come up with 2 questions we cant find anywhere online and the consensus about the questions Differ among players. Here is the questions on the table as we would like the exact ruling before we make a house ruling on it.

First is Divine source.

Divine Source (su): You can grant divine spells to those who follow your cause, allowing them to select you as their deity for the purposes of determining their spells and domains. Select two domains upon taking this ability. These domains must be alignment domains matching your alignment if possible, unless your alignment is neutral. You grant access to these domains as if you were a deity. Creatures that gain spells from you don't receive any spells per day of levels higher than your tier; they lose those spell slots. In addition, you can cast spells from domains you grant as long as their level is equal to or less than your tier. Each day as a spell-like ability, you can cast one spell of each level equal to or less than your tier (selecting from those available to you from your divine source domains). If you're a cleric or you venerate a deity, you may change your spell domains to those you grant others. At 6th tier and 9th tier, you can select this ability again, adding one domain and two subdomains to your list each time and adding their spells to the list of those that you can cast.

The question is about would the Divine source allow you to cast inside an Anti-magic field since you are considered a deity.

The second question is about Mythic Spell power.

Mythic Spellpower (sp): You have a pool of magical power you can draw upon for casting mythic spells. Up to twice per day, you can use this power to cast a mythic spell without expending any uses of mythic power. You can select this ability up to three times; each time you do, you gain two additional uses of this ability per day.

We are aware of the you can augment the spells techniqually being able to cast a Mythic spell even if it has 1000000 mythic power needed to augment it.

The question is: Does Mythic spellpower allow you to cast the mythic spell as a spell like ability ignoring any material components just like a Spell like ability would. Or does it simply give you a spell like ability of a pool of magical power that you can sub out instead of Using mythic surges.

[Davick]

Divine power calls out what you are considered a deity for. Nothing else.

Mythic spellpower is iffy.

[Matthew Small 39]

We know its Iffy and need it clarified.

[Davick]

You want ice cream with that?

[Vritra]

Mythic Spellpower calls out spells, not spell-like abilities so I would say no...

For Divine Source, no. You are not a deity, you are merely a Mythic creature.

d20pfsrd.com wrote:

You can grant divine spells to those who follow your cause, allowing them to select you as their deity for the purposes of determining their spells and domains. Select two domains upon taking this ability. These domains must be alignment domains matching your alignment if possible, unless your alignment is neutral. You grant access to these domains as if you were a deity. Creatures that gain spells from you don't receive any spells per day of levels higher than your tier; they lose those spell slots. In addition, you can cast spells from domains you grant as long as their level is equal to or less than your tier. Each day as a spell-like ability, you can cast one spell of each level equal to or less than your tier (selecting from those available to you from your divine source domains). If you're a cleric or you venerate a deity, you may change your spell domains to those you grant others. At 6th tier and 9th tier, you can select this ability again, adding one domain and two subdomains to your list each time and adding their spells to the list of those that you can cast.

The key words there is "as if". You aren't treated as a deity for your casting, merely for granting domains.

[Matthew Small 39]

Thank you Vritra that is a good explanation on Divine source.

[Cat-thulhu]

Actually I would think the augmented versions are not provided for in mythic spell power. Mythic spell power reads to me as allowing you cast the basic mythic versions of spells, exactly as it states, not the augmented spells. If you want it augmented you must expend additional power as per the mythic spells rules.

Since the description also says 'for casting spells' I would say you actually need to cast the spell as a standard spell, not a SLA. It's a sub out in place of your mythic power. Suppose it's essentially 2 bonus points but only for spell casting.