So, I've run across two spells and I think there's some potential to combine the two, however I have some concern on if they work together due to the wording on Age Resistance in regards to Age Catagory. Can anyone shed some clarity on this?
THREEFOLD ASPECT
School transmutation; Level druid 5, witch 4
Casting Time 1 standard action
Components S, F (silver crescent worth 5 gp)
Range personal
Target you
Duration 24 hours (D)
Threefold aspect allows you to shift your appearance between your natural age and three idealized age categories: young adult (youth/maiden), adulthood (father/mother), or elderly (elder/crone). In each case, your appearance is your own at the appropriate age, rather than that of a new individual.
You may change between these three aspects or your actual age as a standard action. As the young adult, you gain a +2 enhancement bonus to Dexterity and Constitution, but suffer a –2 penalty to Wisdom. In the adult aspect, you gain a +2 enhancement bonus to Wisdom and Intelligence, but take a –2 penalty to Dexterity. As the elderly aspect, you gain a +4 enhancement bonus to Wisdom and Intelligence, but take a –2 penalty to Strength and Dexterity. As enhancement bonuses, these stack with any bonuses or penalties you may have from your actual age (which are untyped bonuses)—the bonuses granted by this spell represent your idealized form in this threefold aspect rather than simply duplicating your ability scores at any one particular age.
True seeing reveals your natural appearance overlaid with that your aspect, recognizing both as part of your true self. Individuals who study you closely and have interacted with you at another apparent age recognize a resemblance (as though family) with a successful DC 20 Perception check.
Threefold aspect does not alter your clothing or equipment, and does not heal any deformity or injury unrelated to age.
AGE RESISTANCE
School transmutation; Level alchemist 4, druid 6, sorcerer/wizard 6, witch 6
Components V, S
This spell functions as lesser age resistance, except you ignore the Strength, Dexterity, and Constitution penalties gained at middle age and old age.
AGE RESISTANCE, GREATER
School transmutation; Level alchemist 5, druid 7, sorcerer/wizard 7, witch 7
Components V, S
This spell functions as lesser age resistance, except you ignore all Strength, Dexterity, and Constitution penalties gained from middle age, old age, and venerable age.
AGE RESISTANCE, LESSER
School transmutation; Level alchemist 3, druid 4, sorcerer/wizard 4, witch 4
Components V, S
Casting Time 1 standard action
Range personal
Target you
Duration 24 hours
You ignore the physical detriments of being middle-aged. This spell does not cause you to look younger, nor does it prevent you from dying of old age, but as long as the spell is in effect, you ignore the –1 penalties to Strength, Dexterity, and Constitution that accrue once you become middle-aged. You retain the age-related bonuses to Intelligence, Wisdom, and Charisma while under the effects of this spell. Additional penalties that you accrue upon becoming old or venerable apply in full.
So the concern is that all of the Age Resistance spells reference negating penalty's from middle age, old age, and venerable age. Threefold Aspect has it's own age groups, what do you guys think?
I would probably allow for it in my games, but I can totally understand other GMs who wouldn't.
That's kinda what I was thinking, honestly I can see a case for both sides. It consumes two spell slots of a reasonable level to pull off. That's kind of the downside.
I don't think they interact like that.
Threefold Aspect specifically contrast it's effects (positive and negative) as being Enhancement bonuses vs. 'actual age' bonuses/penalties.
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So, I've run across two spells and I think there's some potential to combine the two, however I have some concern on if they work together due to the wording on Age Resistance in regards to Age Catagory. Can anyone shed some clarity on this?
THREEFOLD ASPECT
Threefold aspect allows you to shift your appearance between your natural age and three idealized age categories: young adult (youth/maiden), adulthood (father/mother), or elderly (elder/crone). In each case, your appearance is your own at the appropriate age, rather than that of a new individual.
You may change between these three aspects or your actual age as a standard action. As the young adult, you gain a +2 enhancement bonus to Dexterity and Constitution, but suffer a –2 penalty to Wisdom. In the adult aspect, you gain a +2 enhancement bonus to Wisdom and Intelligence, but take a –2 penalty to Dexterity. As the elderly aspect, you gain a +4 enhancement bonus to Wisdom and Intelligence, but take a –2 penalty to Strength and Dexterity. As enhancement bonuses, these stack with any bonuses or penalties you may have from your actual age (which are untyped bonuses)—the bonuses granted by this spell represent your idealized form in this threefold aspect rather than simply duplicating your ability scores at any one particular age.
They should have no bearing on each other, the bonuses and penalties given by Threefold Aspect are NOT the same as the penalties and bonuses incurred by age. It is an idealized transformation of yourself. Age resistance should have as much of an impact on the bonuses and penalties of this spell as it does on Beast Shape or form of the Dragon.
They should have no bearing on each other, the bonuses and penalties given by Threefold Aspect are NOT the same as the penalties and bonuses incurred by age. It is an idealized transformation of yourself. Age resistance should have as much of an impact on the bonuses and penalties of this spell as it does on Beast Shape or form of the Dragon.So, I've run across two spells and I think there's some potential to combine the two, however I have some concern on if they work together due to the wording on Age Resistance in regards to Age Catagory. Can anyone shed some clarity on this?
THREEFOLD ASPECT
Threefold aspect allows you to shift your appearance between your natural age and three idealized age categories: young adult (youth/maiden), adulthood (father/mother), or elderly (elder/crone). In each case, your appearance is your own at the appropriate age, rather than that of a new individual.
You may change between these three aspects or your actual age as a standard action. As the young adult, you gain a +2 enhancement bonus to Dexterity and Constitution, but suffer a –2 penalty to Wisdom. In the adult aspect, you gain a +2 enhancement bonus to Wisdom and Intelligence, but take a –2 penalty to Dexterity. As the elderly aspect, you gain a +4 enhancement bonus to Wisdom and Intelligence, but take a –2 penalty to Strength and Dexterity. As enhancement bonuses, these stack with any bonuses or penalties you may have from your actual age (which are untyped bonuses)—the bonuses granted by this spell represent your idealized form in this threefold aspect rather than simply duplicating your ability scores at any one particular age.
That's the kind of answer I was looking for. Thanks!