Enchantments with specific price does not count toward +10 ench limit?

[DarkPhoenixx]

So if i have +5 armor and add "Shadow" to it i can later add another +5 levels of enchantments?

[Wolfmang]

Nope. Shadow is a +2 Armor Special Ability, it just has a flat cost. So you could have a +5 Shadow armor, and add up to another +3 in enchantments

[DarkPhoenixx]

Got it, thanks.

[Archaeik]

Wolfmang wrote:

Nope. Shadow is a +2 Armor Special Ability, it just has a flat cost. So you could have a +5 Shadow armor, and add up to another +3 in enchantments

Did Ultimate Equipment change the calculations?

the CRB does not list this as costing the +2 enhancement bonus (toward +10 total). As such this means the armor can indeed have +10 worth of enhancements plus any flat rate additions.

The way I read the UE table is that you can roll for Shadow under the +2 table. (but it's still merely flat rate)

[Diego Rossi]

No, UE hasn't changed anything. Probably Wolfmang has looked the UE table for generating randomly found treasures, where the shadow ability is in the table where you roll when you have to a add a +2 special ability and thought it mean it count as a +2 special ability, but the shadow ability still has a flat cost. That header is used only to generate random treasures,

It is not the first time I have seen people making that assumption.

[Lifat]

We don't really have a good way of handling items of +10 or the cap in pathfinder.
In 3.5, the flatrate cost prices weren't enhancements towards the cap, but the flatrate price was still counted toward the 200k gp limit of weapons, meaning that you could have a +5 weapon with +4 ehancement bonuses and then no more than 20k gp flatrate bonuses. (20k is the difference between +9 and +10).

[DarkPhoenixx]

So i can have my +5 Mithral Breastplate of Comfort Determination ?
I'd like to be determined in comfort.