Trying to make a Tinker character

[Lili]

Hi i'm trying to make a tinkerer character what to help progress Science in the name of everyone perhaps building strange new devices that can be used in times of war or peace.

I was thinking at first perhaps an alchemist but without the Mutigun abtiltity to focus more on alchemist and bomb making.

Perhaps there a class i'm missing, i threw gunsmith into the hat to but only they can use the guns so that doesn't really work.

Could someone help me with this Tinker character

[Count Coltello]

There is a third party class tinkerer or a pathfinder class seige master only other ones I can think of

[Master of the Dark Triad]

There's a gnome gunslinger archetype that makes weird gun stuff.

There's a PrC (something of nex, I think. Sorry, I don't remember) that is really good for wizards that craft.

As for a starting class, I suggest wizard, though cleric has some useful domains too.

EDIT: I found the PrC. It's called arclord of nex, but this site calls it mage of the third eye.

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/prestige-classes/other-paizo/a-b/arclord-of -nex

[Lunamaria Hawke]

here the tinker mention earlier Tinker and also the spark class which is free right here Spark. both are really balance. you should take a look at both of them.

[Lili]

Any in base pathfinder? i'm trying to aviod 3rd party

main reason why i left 3.5 it was so hard to figure out what was source and what was 3rd party stuff. and it got so out of control (That and Psions buggers

[Master of the Dark Triad]

There is no PF base class focused around crafting/tinkering.

[Lili]

Master of the Dark Triad wrote:

There is no PF base class focused around crafting/tinkering.

Well it's not that big a deal since he's just an NPC

He's just a helpful friend i'm basing the character off of Grumio from Dragon Commander

[VRMH]

An Alchemist could fit the bill, if you can work with a tinkerer of people rather than of devices.

[Dragonchess Player]

Gnome with the Master Tinker* alternate racial trait and levels in alchemist (at least 4 to pick up Explosive Missile) and gunslinger (experimental gunsmith) has a lot of potential. Take a few ranks in Craft (Weapons), you can actually use a falcata (that you craft yourself) in melee without penalty. If you want to blend magic and tech, then Craft Magic Arms and Armor (with 5 levels in alchemist; see the FAQ on alchemists qualifying for item creation feats) can provide more "tinkering" options; as can Craft Wondrous Item and Craft Construct for building and modifying constructs.

*- "Gnomes experiment with all manner of mechanical devices. Gnomes with this racial trait gain a +1 bonus on Disable Device and Knowledge (engineering) checks. They are treated as proficient with any weapon they have personally crafted. This racial trait replaces defensive training and hatred."

[Alex Cunningham]

Alchemist. It's got flavor and crunch to match. (Hello, there, +ClassLevel bonus to Craft: Alchemy.)

Remind your GM that, per the FAQ, Alchemists _technically_ can't take Item Creation feats, but that, per the FAQ, even the Pathfinder Devs realize this is ridiculous.

[Cyrad]

Have you considered the Arcanist class from the Advanced Class Guide that's playtesting now? It's a full spellcaster that tinkers with magic and can manipulate magical items, like refresh uses or drain their magic.

It would be great if they made an artificer-type alternate class for the alchemist.