The wording on Gozreh's trident is a bit vague, so I'm not sure what feats if any apply to it. Normally it's 1d8+(1/2 caster level, or 'X') dmg. That being said...
>Can you apply vital strike to have it do 2d8+X dmg?
>Greater Vital Strike for 3d8+X?
>Can you use Maximize Spell AND Vital Strike with it for 8+8+8+X?
>And with myhtic vital strike now in the mix, 8+8+8+X+X+X?
>Does power attack work with it?
Can you use Vital Strike or Power Attack with shocking grasp? Therein lies the answer.
Not much difference.
Blopers: big difference. One spell deals damage, one summons a weapon. Kinda.
I think feats like vital strike, cleave etc can be used with it. Power attack should not be used with it RAI as you do not get your strength mod, but there doesnt seemto be blocked by RAW.
Maximize probably wouldnt work as the damage isnt a variable of the spell but a variable of the weapon created by the spell - compare summon monster.
I agree that it is vague but thats how i would rule it anyway.
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Gozreh's Trident and Flame Blade create effects that function as specific weapons.
So, things like Weapon Focus, and Weapon Specialization apply.
Obviously, these feats , and similar, don't apply to things like Shocking Grasp.
Hopefully, you can understand the difference.
You wield this spear-like bolt as if it were a trident (you are proficient with the bolt). Attacks with the trident are melee touch attacks. The bolt deals 1d8 points of electricity damage +1 point per two caster levels (maximum +10).
That sounds an awful lot like variable damage in the spell that can be maximized. I see where you are coming from, but I also see a damage formula right in the spell description.
I would think vital strike works. Power attack does not work with touch attacks, however.
Why wouldnt power attack work?
You can choose to take a –1 penalty on all melee attack rolls and combat maneuver checks to gain a +2 bonus on all melee damage rolls.
Is a melee touch attack not a melee attack?
Thems the rules! I'm on my mobile, so I can't quote in-post, but the last line of power attack says it doesn't work with touch attacks, period. Although there might be an FAQ that says otherwise for weaponlike spells and/or abilities.
"The bonus damage does not apply to touch attacks or effects that do not deal hit point damage."
You are right. But Maximize spell should still work, yeah? Or no?
I would think so. At first I thought Ilja was correct, but I don't think its akin to summon monster... The numbers are a direct result of the spell. Just like a maximized corrosive consumption does a boat load of damage, so too would this spell maximized! The more I think on it the more compelling I find the idea.
It's an attempt to give my completely un-combat-oriented oracle something to do when combat does happen. She's got no DEX or STR to speak of and focuses on Divination spells instead of the typical blow stuff up ones. Idea is even with no attack mod and 3/4 BAB she should hit touch AC ok, especially considering she can use her CHA bonus in tandem with feint to make it FF touch AC instead.
>feint as move
>standard mythic vital strike + arcane strike
8+8+8 (weapon dmg) + 10+10+10 (caster level) + 5+5+5 (arcane strike) + 4+4+4 (devastating strike) + maybe weapon spec or something
1 big hit that's roughly equivalent to hitting with all three of her hits. Trade off is she'll miss out on haste and such for not taking FRA, but like I said she was never designed to be a combat monster.
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Things like Arcane Strike and Inspire Courage would apply, but things like Power Attack would not.
I was trying to create a build based off Flame Blade a while ago, so I studied up on what I could apply.
See the thread here.
... give my ... oracle ... + 5+5+5 (arcane strike)
Probably regret asking, but how is your oracle using arcane strike?