Fighter + Druid Multi-Class Questions


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Thanks for reading my post. I currently have a level 7 Druid that has the Heavy Armor Proficiency feat. My GM allows us to retrain feats per the ultimate campaign rules.

Question 1)
If I took 1 level in Fighter, would that grant me access to the Heavy Armor Proficiency ability naturally? In other words, could I then go back and retrain the Heavy Armor Proficiency feat to something else and still wear my heavy dragonscale plate armor because I took 1 level in Fighter?

Question 2)
If "yes" is the answer to question 1, then when I go back to retrain the Heavy Armor Proficiency feat (taken at level 1 feat), assume I would like to retrain it to something that has a Base Attack Bonus minimum requirement (say Vital Strike). While I couldn't take that feat normally at level 1 because of the minimum requirement, since I'll be level 8 when I do the retraining, my BAB would meet the minimum requirement for the feat. So, can you retrain a feat and replace it with a feat that you currently meet the requirements, but put it in an earlier feat slot (like a level 1 feat slot)?

Thanks for responses in advance.

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Moondragon Starshadow wrote:

1) Fighter, would that grant me access to the Heavy Armor Proficiency ability naturally? In other words, could I then go back and retrain the Heavy Armor Profic

2) retrain the Heavy Armor Proficiency feat (taken at level 1 feat ... Vital Strike ... currently meet the requirements, but put it in an earlier feat slot (like a level 1 feat slot)?

1) Yes

2) Yes and it seems broken because it is very powerful. But is allowed officially (not just from a RAW stance.)


Yes and yes.

Two great examples of how the retraining rules are heavily overpowered when allowed.


I like it, and it doesn't seem overpowered to me. It's specifically allowed and represents an investment of time and money by the character, both in retraining itself and in finding a suitable trainer. The intent seems to be keeping you from having dead feats at higher levels--you can take a feat that is useful now and not worry about it collecting dust on your character sheet five levels later.

There are other ways retraining leaves you stronger instead of just different. You can retrain hit points until you have the maximum possible for your build. You can train languages past the usual maximum for your build. The feat thing is nice, but I haven't really seen a lot of brokenness, though I'm sure a savvy player will post some here shortly.

Sczarni

Yes and yes.


Yes and yes. It will cost you at least 350GP and take 5 days to accomplish this. You need to find a trainer that possesses the feat you want to retrain into. It's up to the GM how easy that is to do.

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