Ok... So I want to give my players the joy of fighting a dread wraith but im experiencing difficulties. There is no statblock. However there are instructions of how to do it!
It becomes Large, it does 2d6 negative dmg and 1d8 Con drain(instead of 1d6 and 1d6) aaaaand(the tricky part) you can built it by either applying the giant and advanced simple templates OR make it 16HD undead.
Well the second option is out of the question, it becomes too powerfull. Im looking into the first...
I can apply the advanced template, the natural armor is converted to deflection, all stats goes up by 4 and its ok.
What I cant do is find the correct way for the giant template. It gives 4 STR and 4 CON and -2 DEX. The problem is that the incorporeal undead has neither STR or CON. Now... Im pretty sure that extra CON is converted to extra CHA(as undead get hitpoints from CHA).
The question is about the extra STR and the -2 DEX. The wraith as it has no STR, it hits using DEX. Now, will I convert the +4 STR to +4 DEX as it seems logical or not? And if I do, the -2 DEX will continue to apply?(the fact that uses its DEX naturally to hit maybe makes it not to lose DEX as it becomes bigger)
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This is what Hero Labs gives you:
XP 3200
Wraith, Dread (Templated)
LE Large undead (incorporeal)
Init +8; Senses darkvision 60 ft., lifesense (60'); Perception +4
Aura unnatural aura
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Defense
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AC 20, touch 20, flat-footed 16 (+4 Dex, -1 size, +7 deflection)
hp 57 (5d8+35)
Fort +8, Ref +5, Will +8; +2 bonus vs. channeled energy
Defensive Abilities channel resistance +2, incorporeal; Immune undead traits
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Offense
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Speed fly 60 ft. (good)
Space 10 ft.; Reach 10 ft.
Special Attacks ability drain - con
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Statistics
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Str —, Dex 18, Con —, Int 18, Wis 18, Cha 25
Base Atk +3; CMB +8; CMD 25
Feats Blind-Fight, Combat Reflexes, Improved Initiative
Skills Fly +6, Stealth +0
Languages Common, Infernal
SQ create spawn, sunlight powerlessness
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Special Abilities
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1d8 CON drain (Melee touch attack) Attack causes Constitution Drain
Blind-Fight Re-roll misses because of concealment, other benefits.
Channel Resistance +2 +2 bonus to save vs. Channel Energy.
Combat Reflexes (5 AoO/round) Can make extra attacks of opportunity/rd, and even when flat-footed.
Create Spawn (Su) A humanoid slain by a wraith becomes a wraith in 1d4 rounds. These spawn are less powerful than typical wraiths, and suffer a -2 penalty on all d20 rolls and checks, receive -2 hp per HD, and only drain 1d2 points of Constitution on a touch. Spawn ar
Darkvision (60 feet) You can see in the dark (black and white vision only).
Energy Damage: Melee touch attack (2d6 negative) (Ex) The creature's attack or attacks deal the specified amount of energy damage in addition to their normal damage.
Flight (60 feet, Good) You can fly!
Immunity to Ability Drain Immunity to ability drain
Immunity to Bleeds You are immune to bleeds.
Immunity to Critical Hits You are immune to Critical Hits
Immunity to Death Effects You are immune to death effects.
Immunity to Disease You are immune to diseases.
Immunity to Energy Drain Immune to energy drain
Immunity to Exhausted You are immune to the exhausted condition.
Immunity to Fatigue You are immune to the fatigued condition.
Immunity to Mind-Affecting effects You are immune to Mind-Affecting effects.
Immunity to Non-lethal Damage You are immune to Non-Lethal Damage
Immunity to Paralysis You are immune to paralysis.
Immunity to Physical Ability Damage Immune to ability damage to your physical abilities.
Immunity to Poison You are immune to poison.
Immunity to Precision Damage You are immune to Precision Damage
Immunity to Sleep You are immune to sleep effects.
Immunity to Stunning You are immune to being stunned.
Incorporeal (Ex) You aren't quite here.
Lifesense (60') (Su) A wraith notices and locates living creatures within 60 feet, just as if it possessed the blindsight ability.
Sunlight Powerlessness (Ex) A wraith caught in sunlight cannot attack and is staggered.
Undead Traits Undead have many immunities and use Cha in place of a Con for all effects.
Unnatural Aura (Su) Animals do not willingly approach within 30 feet of a wraith, unless a master makes a DC 25 Handle Animal, Ride, or wild empathy check.
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XP 12800
Wraith, Dread (Extra HD)
LE Large undead (incorporeal)
Init +6; Senses darkvision 60 ft., lifesense (60'); Perception +2
Aura unnatural aura
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Defense
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AC 16, touch 16, flat-footed 14 (+2 Dex, -1 size, +5 deflection)
hp 152 (16d8+80)
Fort +10, Ref +7, Will +12; +2 bonus vs. channeled energy
Defensive Abilities channel resistance +2, incorporeal; Immune undead traits
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Offense
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Speed fly 60 ft. (good)
Space 10 ft.; Reach 10 ft.
Special Attacks ability drain - con
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Statistics
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Str —, Dex 14, Con —, Int 14, Wis 14, Cha 21
Base Atk +12; CMB +15; CMD 30
Feats Blind-Fight, Combat Reflexes, Improved Initiative
Skills Fly +4, Stealth -2
Languages Common, Infernal
SQ create spawn, sunlight powerlessness
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Special Abilities
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1d8 CON drain (Melee touch attack) Attack causes Constitution Drain
Blind-Fight Re-roll misses because of concealment, other benefits.
Channel Resistance +2 +2 bonus to save vs. Channel Energy.
Combat Reflexes (3 AoO/round) Can make extra attacks of opportunity/rd, and even when flat-footed.
Create Spawn (Su) A humanoid slain by a wraith becomes a wraith in 1d4 rounds. These spawn are less powerful than typical wraiths, and suffer a -2 penalty on all d20 rolls and checks, receive -2 hp per HD, and only drain 1d2 points of Constitution on a touch. Spawn ar
Darkvision (60 feet) You can see in the dark (black and white vision only).
Energy Damage: Melee touch attack (2d6 negative) (Ex) The creature's attack or attacks deal the specified amount of energy damage in addition to their normal damage.
Flight (60 feet, Good) You can fly!
Immunity to Ability Drain Immunity to ability drain
Immunity to Bleeds You are immune to bleeds.
Immunity to Critical Hits You are immune to Critical Hits
Immunity to Death Effects You are immune to death effects.
Immunity to Disease You are immune to diseases.
Immunity to Energy Drain Immune to energy drain
Immunity to Exhausted You are immune to the exhausted condition.
Immunity to Fatigue You are immune to the fatigued condition.
Immunity to Mind-Affecting effects You are immune to Mind-Affecting effects.
Immunity to Non-lethal Damage You are immune to Non-Lethal Damage
Immunity to Paralysis You are immune to paralysis.
Immunity to Physical Ability Damage Immune to ability damage to your physical abilities.
Immunity to Poison You are immune to poison.
Immunity to Precision Damage You are immune to Precision Damage
Immunity to Sleep You are immune to sleep effects.
Immunity to Stunning You are immune to being stunned.
Incorporeal (Ex) You aren't quite here.
Lifesense (60') (Su) A wraith notices and locates living creatures within 60 feet, just as if it possessed the blindsight ability.
Sunlight Powerlessness (Ex) A wraith caught in sunlight cannot attack and is staggered.
Undead Traits Undead have many immunities and use Cha in place of a Con for all effects.
Unnatural Aura (Su) Animals do not willingly approach within 30 feet of a wraith, unless a master makes a DC 25 Handle Animal, Ride, or wild empathy check.
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EDIT: Huh, that's interesting...HL doesn't list the touch attack in the Offense section. I'll have to let HL know about that.
Well, I looked into the Jade Regent 5(Tide of Honor) where some dread wraiths are encountered and it says:
Advanced giant wraith (Pathfinder RPG Bestiary 281, 294, 295)
hp 67 each
67 Hit points. Given that it has 5HD that means that CHA goes up by 4 modifiers, or 8 points of score(4*5=20). So either the author did something wrong or the Hero Lab got it wrong.
But... If applying the giant template gives only negatives to the wraith, why even give it to the enchanced version of it?(-2 AC from size and Dex and from dex -1 to hit)