Hello everybody,
I have a question. If a character wears a Ring of rat Fangs (the wearer gains a bite attack, from Advanced Race Guide), is he automatically proficient with this bite attack? Or has he to learn it by other ways (like a Druid level)?
Thank you
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I would assume that he would be proficient. there are no rules for having to take a skill in natural weapons. Can you imagine having to take run on all fours when a druid turns into a badger. Or becoming a werewolf but not actually able to bite anyone because you don't have a feat open for exotic weapon were wolf bite.
I think it is safe to assume proficiency with magically created features.
By RAW, you are not proficient. Here's what the RAW has to say about it:
All characters are proficient with unarmed strikes and any natural weapons they gain from their race. A character who uses a weapon with which he is not proficient takes a –4 penalty on attack rolls with that weapon.
RAW, if the natural weapon does not come from your race (via racial traits), you aren't automatically considered proficient. This does raise to question as to what this natural weapon constitutes in terms of the type of weapon it is. Is it a Simple weapon? A Martial? Perhaps Exotic (THEM BIG BUCKTEETH!)? Because the weapon makes no clarification, we can't really put a proficiency type on it. Since making a Bite is a very simple type of wielding, it's safe to say people proficient with all Simple Weapons (or if you want to make it more difficult with having Buck Teeth and all, Martial proficiency may be required) would be proficient with this Bite Attack.
At the time of the Core Rulebook being created, AFAIK there was no means to get natural attacks outside of your racial traits, so this clause remains unchanged, since the intent would include all natural weapons period.
RAW says no. RAI says yes. YMMV.
To my knowledge your proficient with all natural attacks you possess.
By RAW, you are not proficient. Here's what the RAW has to say about it:
All characters are proficient with unarmed strikes and any natural weapons they gain from their race. A character who uses a weapon with which he is not proficient takes a –4 penalty on attack rolls with that weapon.RAW, if the natural weapon does not come from your race (via racial traits), you aren't automatically considered proficient. This does raise to question as to what this natural weapon constitutes in terms of the type of weapon it is. Is it a Simple weapon? A Martial? Perhaps Exotic (THEM BIG BUCKTEETH!)? Because the weapon makes no clarification, we can't really put a proficiency type on it. Since making a Bite is a very simple type of wielding, it's safe to say people proficient with all Simple Weapons (or if you want to make it more difficult with having Buck Teeth and all, Martial proficiency may be required) would be proficient with this Bite Attack.
At the time of the Core Rulebook being created, AFAIK there was no means to get natural attacks outside of your racial traits, so this clause remains unchanged, since the intent would include all natural weapons period.
RAW says no. RAI says yes. YMMV.
Claws (Ex): At 1st level, you can grow claws as a free action. These claws are treated as natural weapons, allowing you to make two claw attacks as a full attack action using your full base attack bonus.
Dragon Bite (Ex): At 2nd level, whenever the dragon disciple uses his bloodline to grow claws, he also gains a bite attack. This natural attack is made at the dragon disciple’s full base attack bonus.
DD's also get a breath weapon and wings.
Many spells grant natural attacks.
Given the numerous ways to gain natural attacks, I think you are considered proficient in all you have. Witch can get Claws and Hair attacks via Hexes.
/cevah