Potion of Ghostly Form

[Bidmaron]

Scenario: Lini is exploring the Prison, where there are two cards. She turns over Pit Trap ("If defeated, you may immediately explore again. If undefeated, each character at this location is dealt 1d4 Combat damage.")

She plays her Potion of Ghostly Form ("Banish this card and choose a character at your location. That character may evade a barrier, and then may immediately explore again.")

The player says "great, now I get to encounter the henchman or villain and close."

I say "not so fast. You must put the barrier back in the deck and shuffle the two cards, and you may re-counted the barrier."

The player says in another game, they banished the barrier. I think he may be thinking of another barrier like Secret Stash ("If defeated, examine the top 3 cards of the location deck and shuffle 1 item, weapon, or blessing (if any) of your choice into your character deck. Return the remaining cards to the location deck in any order. If undefeated, you may banish this barrier.")

I THINK if you use Ghostly Form on Secret Stash, it gets banished, but Pit Trap goes back in the deck.
Right?

[raven614]

On page 10 it says "if you have a power or card that let's you evade that card, you may immediately shuffle it back into the deck; it's neither defeated nor undefeated. I think maybe your wrong it gets shuffled back into the deck because it wasn't defeated.

[Bidmaron]

I recognize I may be wrong on the Secret Stash, but it is pretty clear to me that Pit Trap should definitely go back into the location deck.

[raven614]

Right any bane that is undefeated is shuffled back in the deck.

[Mechalibur]

Bidmaron wrote:

I recognize I may be wrong on the Secret Stash, but it is pretty clear to me that Pit Trap should definitely go back into the location deck.

Yep! You only get the choice to banish it if it's undefeated. Evading doesn't count as it being defeated or undefeated.

[Bidmaron]

Roger. Understand. Both go back in the deck and get shuffled in.

Okay, new scenario. It wasn't a barrier, it was a monster instead in the Woods location, and someone uses a card to evade the monster. (Woods at this location, "Undefeated monsters other than villains or henchmen are banished."

Same thing, the evaded monster gets shuffled back in, right?

[raven614]

Yes

[Captain Bulldozer]

Anything that is evaded (boon OR bane) goes back into the location deck with the exception of summoned cards. If something has an effect that goes off when it is defeated/undefeated, it will not occur when the card is evaded.

[Daarck]

Why would you evade a boon?

[Daarck]

Good lord - nevermind - I just read a thread a couple below where this was and, apparently, I am still free-styling the rules to the point of making up my own game. Back to the rulebook we go :)

I have to be honest - playing a game and taking part in a community that's as lively and informed as this one actually improves the game for me, and continually learning the intricacies of the rules is really interesting to me.