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Where is the thread that tells where how to calculate three sub tiers? I can not find it. I tried, out of sub tier gold + calculating + three sub tiers, and a combination of two of those three. I'm sure it has been talked about it before.
On page 35 of the PFS guide it does not talk about calculating three sub tiers. Do you add all three together and divide by three or, do you add the second two and divide by two. I thought I found the answer to this but I don't remember for sure.
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I'm assuming you're talking about earlier season scenarios that run 1-7.
In that case, you'd still use the same technique. You'd have regular 1-2, 1-5 out-of-subtier, 3-4, 3-7 out-of-subtier and 6-7. Since a level 1 or 2 character can't play a scenario at level 6-7 (nor vice-versa), you don't need a 1-7 out-of-subtier.
-Michael
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For scenarios with three subtiers, you would add each pair of subtiers together (low and mid, mid and high) and divide by 2, giving each person the appropriate amount of gold, depending on their level and the subtier actually being played.
So example, if the party consisted of a level 1, two level 4s, and a level 7, playing in subtier 3-4, gold would be given out as:
Level 1: OoT gold for subtiers 1-2 and 3-4
Level 4s: Subtier 3-4
Level 7: OoT gold for subtiers 3-4 and 6-7
At least I think so. Not sure if its said anywhere, but its the only thing that (I think) makes sense.
Venture-Lieutenant, Indiana—Martinsville
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For scenarios with three subtiers, you would add each pair of subtiers together (low and mid, mid and high) and divide by 2, giving each person the appropriate amount of gold, depending on their level and the subtier actually being played.
So example, if the party consisted of a level 1, two level 4s, and a level 7, playing in subtier 3-4, gold would be given out as:
Level 1: OoT gold for subtiers 1-2 and 3-4
Level 4s: Subtier 3-4
Level 7: OoT gold for subtiers 3-4 and 6-7At least I think so. Not sure if its said anywhere, but its the only thing that (I think) makes sense.
Trying to wrap my head around this.
Can you have a level one and level seven play in the same game? Regardless on the tier played, I think that would be quite a range of character levels.
I am guessing that this is the reason we no longer have 1-7 scenarios made.
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Can you have a level one and level seven play in the same game? Regardless on the tier played, I think that would be quite a range of character levels.
It is only possible if they are playing in the 3-4 subtier.
That said, if I was the GM that game I would be begging the level 7 to play a level 1 or pregen 4 instead, for the sake of the other players at the table.
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Venture-Captain, California—Sacramento
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Well, you can have a 7 play with a 1, if they are both playing tier 3-4.
It may not be a lot of fun for the level 1.
The closest I have come to it personally was a table of 2 5's, 2 4's and 3 1's. The 1's were only really relevant because of some amazing dice luck both ways, and because we have awesome spotlight sharing players.
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I don't have the PFS guide before me, could a player with a level one character play with a seventh level pregen. Then, apply the chronicle sheet to his level one character and only get 500gp?
That way most of the players are happy. I believe the players with the level one's will feel like they will get the short end of the stick. The other way is they all play tier 3-4 but, the level fives and higher will feel they get the short end of the stick.
I will let the players duke it out and let the populace decide what tier they are playing. Am I right about the 500gp.
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RPG Superstar 2013 Top 16
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The rule is that you can't play a pregen and then apply the credit to a character who could have legally played that scenario himself. But if you're playing a level 7 pregen in the 6-7 subtier of a 1-7, then your level 1 couldn't have played legally. Also, I don't think that rule even applies for level 1 characters at all anyway.
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I don't have the PFS guide before me, could a player with a level one character play with a seventh level pregen. Then, apply the chronicle sheet to his level one character and only get 500gp?
That way most of the players are happy. I believe the players with the level one's will feel like they will get the short end of the stick. The other way is they all play tier 3-4 but, the level fives and higher will feel they get the short end of the stick.
I will let the players duke it out and let the populace decide what tier they are playing. Am I right about the 500gp.
You can apply the pregen's chronicle to a -NEW- character at level one, as his/her first chronicle sheet, and get 500 gp that way. It can't be applied at level 1 to an existing character. It can be applied later, at the level of the pregen character, in this case, at level seven.
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RPG Superstar 2013 Top 16
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You can apply the pregen's chronicle to a -NEW- character at level one, as his/her first chronicle sheet, and get 500 gp that way. It can't be applied at level 1 to an existing character. It can be applied later, at the level of the pregen character, in this case, at level seven.
Actually, this was changed in the latest version of the guide. You can apply the credit to ANY 1st level character with 500 gold.
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You can apply the pregen's chronicle to a -NEW- character at level one, as his/her first chronicle sheet, and get 500 gp that way. It can't be applied at level 1 to an existing character. It can be applied later, at the level of the pregen character, in this case, at level seven.Actually, this was changed in the latest version of the guide. You can apply the credit to ANY 1st level character with 500 gold.
Yep, the 'new' got removed.
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Venture-Captain, California—San Francisco Bay Area South & West
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The rule is that you can't play a pregen and then apply the credit to a character who could have legally played that scenario himself.
That isn't actually what the rules say. The rule is that you can't play a pregen and then apply the credit to a character at the level of the pregen or higher. So it would be legal to play a 7th-level pregen in a 6-7 subtier of a tier 3-7, and then apply the chronicle to any character of lower level. This would include characters of level 3 through 6, any of which would be able to play in that subtier.
While that is all that is explicitly excluded by the rules, some GMs will not allow you to play a pregen if you are applying the credit to a tier legal character. Some GMs will go even further, and not allow you to play a pregen at all if you have a tier-legal character.
Note, also, that the rules don't explicitly prohibit playing a 7th-level pregen in the 3-4 subtier of a tier 3-7 adventure, or a 4th-level pregen in the low subtier of a tier 1-5. Most GMs that I know wouldn't allow this, and would ask the player to use a subtier-appropriate pregen instead.
There has been considerable discussion about this, and there may well be additional clarifications or restrictions in the future. But for now there are several situations where what is, or is not, legal remains a GM call.
TL;DR Expect table variation