Roleplay and Alignment Shifts

[Synnik]

Okay. So here is my main problem. I attend a weekly pf group and our well seasoned DM has moved City. One of the players decided to step up to the torch to try and fill his spot. Which I'm grateful for. We built a whole new campaign and new characters and we started again. Being so close to Halloween the DM decided to make a themed session in which in conversed with me about. The session was meant to take place on another plane which I liked because it prevented crossover.

Turns out that went out the window and we came across werewolves. It was a fun fight so I was told, it was a session I missed. Though I was informed the later week that a couple of our members had werewolf blood in vials. Jokes of using it on on a characters pet goat became an hourly thing. (And Then eventually happen).

One of the players in this group is a druid with a true neutral alignment. But I disagree with his character choice. Keeping in mind he isn't the most serious of players and our group is pretty much divided from serious and silly.

So this druid decided as a true neutral character to pay a traveling merchant to go to a hostile military training base (to be filled with men formed from conscription) to 'poison' one of the guards, with the werewolf blood. He lied to the merchant of the contents of the vial. Sneaked away from the group to do this. When caught by myself and another he continued to lie even after taking damage and when at the brink of death from an attack to prevent him from healing he decided to just start walking off. This gave us issues. If this was an NPC I would kill him. But it was a fellow player and he was being a dick. We decided to ask the merchant in which the DM replied he was gone. Not only was he gone but as a dwarf he left. Undetected on a medium rhino. I went mental with how not possible that is and I felt like the DM wanted this plan to happen. So after my rant the merchant was there. He told us the plan and we filled in the gaps.

Sorry if this his hard to read. I was writing on my phone. My question to you guys is this.

Should that druid have an alignment shift? Chaos for the sheer unpredictability with what the werewolf can do. The lying and sneaking. And evil because how is giving a completely randomised target a curse for life not evil? despite the fact the plan didn't happen. It was going to happen without our intervention.

[ericpants]

Synnik wrote:

So this druid decided as a true neutral character to pay a traveling merchant to go to a hostile military training base (to be filled with men formed from conscription) to 'poison' one of the guards, with the werewolf blood. He lied to the merchant of the contents of the vial. Sneaked away from the group to do this. When caught by myself and another he continued to lie even after taking damage and when at the brink of death from an attack to prevent him from healing he decided to just start walking off. This gave us issues. If this was an NPC I would kill him. But it was a fellow player and he was being a dick. We decided to ask the merchant in which the DM replied he was gone. Not only was he gone but as a dwarf he left. Undetected on a medium rhino. I went mental with how not possible that is and I felt like the DM wanted this plan to happen. So after my rant the merchant was there. He told us the plan and we filled in the gaps.

Should that druid have an alignment shift? Chaos for the sheer unpredictability with what the werewolf can do. The lying and sneaking. And evil because how is giving a completely randomised target a curse for life not evil? despite the fact the plan didn't happen. It was going to happen without our intervention.

From what I loosely gather it seems like he was acting on the neutral alignment to cause havoc in enemy territory and capitalize on it.

Would you change his alignment back every time he did something outside your scope of alignment restrictions? Do you happen to have a rogue or inquisitor with stealth or bluff skills? Would you say they're evil when using those skills? If he was indeed lying and either you or your party member that questioned him had no evidence against him or knew exactly what he was planning then why was he beaten and almost killed? Did your character read his characters mind? If not, would that change your alignments to evil? Why can't a dwarf merchant have skill in stealth to sneak in wares? Were the two of you beating the druid in front of the dwarf the entire time while he watched?

In conclusion, I don't have the minutes from your session and can't determine what exactly happened to make an informative opinion. (Even though I kind of did anyway. lols)

[Nox Aeterna]

To me , this is well within TN.

Actually , your whole part must be N or E , since you almost killed one of your party member over this.

[Synnik]

My character is evil. The other character was an inquisitor. He cast confess to find out what the druid was up to. The druid lied and took damage. The merchant can well have stealth but not hide in plain sight. In which he would be in plain sight. We caught the druid sneaking off and knew he was in possession of said vial.

The the alignment issues are not for our characters but the druid. Is it justifiable for a true neutral druid to deliberately give someone a werewolf curse?

[Nox Aeterna]

Synnik wrote:

My character is evil. The other character was an inquisitor. He cast confess to find out what the druid was up to. The druid lied and took damage. The merchant can well have stealth but not hide in plain sight. In which he would be in plain sight. We caught the druid sneaking off and knew he was in possession of said vial.

The the alignment issues are not for our characters but the druid. Is it justifiable for a true neutral druid to deliberately give someone a werewolf curse?

If he did this to some inocent person , then yes , it would be a problem.

If there is an enemy fort (with only soldiers and no civilians in it) and the guy got a reason for this, like you are at war and they will eventually fight you and so on.

Then, to me, it is fine.

If he did this for no reason or if he did this to a bunch of innocent civilians (even if after they got to the soldiers) , then i might think there is a problem.

You would need to say more about the story going on , but what he did , to me , could be within TN.

[Synnik]

The base in question is a training camp so it would be a fresh batch on conscripted soldiers. We're not at war but a resistance group against this evil oppressive power.

As for the reason. I'm not sure about the logic behind it. Personally I think it happened because the player thought it would be funny.

I know that I'm the 'That Guy' of the grouo and I'm strict with with myself and with the rules. I have no issue with the plan itself and do indeed find the concept funny. I just feel it would of been very OOC for a druid and perhaps the player needs a character more fitting for how it wants to play.

Added perspective this druid is called bobba ray dudly and has a rhino animal companion called the table.