
I3igAl |

We are currnetly playing the "City of the Spider Queen".
Last session my level9 Barbarian(standard Beast Totem line, Invulnerable Rager, going for CaGM later) got dominated by a drow Vampire. The party not wanting to fight their main tank ran off and left the dungeon. I failed the reroll on my Will save, too and got my blood drained.
The group left the Dungeon to regroup, while I stayed down there. The DM ruled I'm under the Vampires control, but at the moment free to move around in the dungeon. If I go near to the Drow Vampire, she can regain control over me any time she wnats though.
Now I've got some questions and look for advice.
1. It seems technically Undead are immune to morale effects, which would very likely include my Str Bonus(and Con Bonus) to Rage. Now my GM likely doesn't know this and would likely allow me to get those anyway.
But how would you handle this? I mean why would a not Vampire be able to give in to his beast side and fall into a killing frenzy? Would you even allow me to put my Con-bonus into Cha?
2. What shall I do? I basically got three possibilities:
a)Try to help the group in killing that Vampire drow priestess, become a free Vampire and try to rejoin the group.
b)I'm now Chaotic Evil, so maybe I would rather try to get my revenge on the group. They left me alone and just ran, arguing that my hot-headed barbarian caused a lot of trouble for their cowardly cautious group, who were often to scared to fight enemies head on. If yes how to kill those guys:
Half-Drow Magus 9(Spring Attack feat chain, doesn't do that much damage)
Travel Domain Cleric(Mobile Healbot, likes his subparblasts, Channeling and Heavy Armor)
Rogue(insane AC, due to having gotten the most loot and being a crafter.)
I'm the most optimized character in the party though rather underequipped only having:+1 Greatsword, + 2 Gauntlets of Strength, Potions of Flying and Haste, A Hat of Disguise[this could really help me here], Wands of Hold Person and Tongues, Masterwork Composite Longbow(St+4), and 4 Javelins of Lighting.
Since I can now Rage Cycle for free, maybe I should retrain some Rage Powers.
c)Roll a new character(I already got a melee Druid ready, though my group wants a paladin.)

Errant_Epoch |

Since you are running an old 3.0 adventure can you use options from savage species? Also do you own Savage Species?
If so the DM might allow you to take an altered version of the liberated spawn prc. It's meant for players who become spawn pcs to help them retain their alignment and abilities and essentially buy their level adjustment but it could help you if your dm lets you take it.
Pathfinder doesn't have level adjustments or effective character levels so playing with templates is overpowered but maybe if the DM lets you use a modified version of the PRC you will offset the gap by essentially "spending" levels in vampire.
So not only is it a nicer way to play with a template along others that don't have one but it fixes your alignment and mind control problems.
Ultimately i think you should really just play a new character, it's more fair to the other players but if you really want to keep your new vamp see if you can swing the above idea.

Redjack_rose |
At that point I'd probably roll a new character, only because PvP is usually frowned upon.
Keeping your barbarian would be cool, but it doesn't seem like that'll be much of an option. Also, your party sounds like a bunch of wussies so... maybe make an inquisitor and whip them into shape!
<.< also, avoid glitterdust at all costs! Pretty sure there's a FAQ flying around that states any vampire that becomes sparkly immediately explodes in a ball of shame. ^_^ lol.

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If I was the GM I'd say roll a new character. I wouldn't want this to turn into a pvp grudge match.
I don't know the whole story but what options did the party have? The Barbarian was completely optimized for what he was built to do. The other characters were a Magus that had a minus to con, a Rogue and a Travel Domain Cleric (which could mean no positive energy channeling, and even then the rager would just outlast them all just based on hit die)
Their big gun got mind frelled, they may have had no means to undo it and the next round the vampire would have siced him on them all. Sounds like retreat was the best of a lot of bad options.

DonDuckie |

The vampire barbarian doesn't get the morale bonus to strength (or will save), you can still rage and gain all other benefits, eg. rage powers.
You are now immune to fatigue and exhaustion allowing you to focus on rage-cycling tactics = using rage powers with once-per-rage limitations every round.
Anything depending on your CON score, now depends on your CHA score(this should include rounds of rage per day).
Being chaotic evil doesn't dictate your actions, it more guides your goals/means... but there is nothing forcing you to seek revenge. There is also nothing preventing you from doing so. Relentlessly hunting, torturing and murdering villains are also CE actions.
As a GM: you are under the vampire's control, so you can't help your team to destroy it - unless it orders you to do so.
If this isn't something you and your (wussy?) group want to play out - you should probably just make a new character.
It could be really awesome... but if your group runs from one vampire - what are the odds they come back to fight two?

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If you are not going to just start a new character,
Bless your friends with immortality (i.e turn them into your spawn). Return to the surface and claim a wide swath of territory (Kingmaker:The Vampire edition) Then continue the game as an all vampire game if your GM is up for it or start a new game where your former PC's are the villains your new characters are building up to take down.

Errant_Epoch |

Ultimately if you decide, and your dm allows, for some pvp vampire fun. You should be able to take that party out no problem.
How, easy, power attack and swing for the fences. The cleric is the only real threat to you and then only if he's specialized in channel energy but you get turn resistance. Kill him first.
Then its the magus's turn. Just charge him and smash, count on your DR and STR to get you through.
The Rogues High AC means nothing since his damage output is probably terrible without SA.
Better yet powergame, make the whole party vampires.

I3igAl |

Roll a new character and be ready to fight against a barbarian vampire. Remind the GM that undead barbarians do not have the ability to rage if necessary.
I'd suggest a vampire hunter, an Inquisitor perhaps?
I made an Inquisitor now, though not a Vampire Hunter, sicne those are terrible. Don't want to abandon the Barbarian since one does not get the possibility of playing one really often.
If I was the GM I'd say roll a new character. I wouldn't want this to turn into a pvp grudge match.
I don't really have a grudge on the rest of the group, though I think doing some PVP would be a unique experience and allow me to play the Vampire abillities to the fullest.
Well they were quite out of spells, though the Vampire should have used up many of her higher spells too already in a previous fight.
Ultimately if you decide, and your dm allows, for some pvp vampire fun. You should be able to take that party out no problem.
How, easy, power attack and swing for the fences. The cleric is the only real threat to you and then only if he's specialized in channel energy but you get turn resistance. Kill him first.
Then its the magus's turn. Just charge him and smash, count on your DR and STR to get you through.
The Rogues High AC means nothing since his damage output is probably terrible without SA.Better yet powergame, make the whole party vampires.
It's not that easy. The cleric can just teleport out before I get him. He may last quite long with all his heal spells and having an insanely high Con his HP are higher than mine were when non-raging. The others could falnk me, while hammering their healer and being and invulnerable Rager, I'd have to eat lots of SAs before he goes down.
I was thinking about using my Hat of disguise to look like an imprisoned Drow figther(They are in a former Lolth Temple taken over by Kiaransalee worshipping drow and already rescued a Drow Fighter and had him help).
Then I ask for the Fighters stats for an alibi let me give some fake NPC Sheet. At the next good oportunity e.g. when they rest, I sneak up to their watcher pin hin drink his blood and make him my Vampire pawn. Then we take on the rest.

I3igAl |

It could be really awesome... but if your group runs from one vampire - what are the odds they come back to fight two?
Well they were quite out of spells and had low HP. They now want to recruit a Paladin(talk me into making one) to Smite the Vampire and especially for Aura of Resolve, since they are primarily afraid of the Vampire's Dominate person.