PFSRD wrote:
(Tranquil Guardian, Aasimar Paladin Archetype):
"Touch of Serenity (Su)
At 1st level, a tranquil guardian gains Touch of Serenity as a bonus feat, even if she does not meet the prerequisites.
(...)
This ability replaces smite evil."
(Touch of Serenity, Feat):
"Prerequisites: Wis 18, Improved Unarmed Strike, base attack bonus +8.
(...)You may attempt a touch of serenity once per day for every four levels you have attained (but see Special), and no more than once per round.
Special: A monk of the lotus receives Touch of Serenity as a bonus feat at 1st level, even if he does not meet the Prerequisites. A monk may attempt a touch of serenity a number of times per day equal to his monk
level, plus one more time per day for every four levels he has in classes other than monk."
My question:
How many times per day would the Tranquil Guardian be able to use this ability? As written, it seems s/he can only start to use it at fourth level, but that would hardly makes sense, because s/he is getting the feature at first level. So it seems the Paladin can use it once + once per day for every four levels he has attained
My suggestion: Use the class-feature exactly as the Monk of the Lotus.
(P.S.: I saw the old, similar thread, but I've been accused of being a thread necromancer, so this time I started a new one)
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Unfortunately, there no specific ruling that states that you would be able to use it equal to how a Monk could. Keep in mind, you're NOT gaining the ability from the Monk's point of view, you're gaining it from the Feat point of view. Just like if anyone else in the game took the Feat. You just get it super duper early and without worrying about Pre-requisites. Specific trumps general. Now if the description for it in Tranquil Guardian said otherwise, that'd be different.
I would imagine you have 1 use of it per day until you hit 4, then you would have 2. 3 at 8. 4 at 12, etc. I believe this is the intention. It'd be silly to gain it at level 1 and not be able to use it until level 4.
Since it specifically states that you can attempt it once per day every four levels, that's exactly what you gain. It specifically calls out the Monk in the Special section to allow it once per day per monk level.
Suggestion: I'm sure you could houserule anything.
I just think the archetype could be a viable option if you received ToS level/day - after all you give up Smite Evil for this.
By the rule, and a touch of common sense, 1/day until 8th level, then 2/day, and another +1 per four levels. I'm not sure I've seen a "x per Y levels" ability that is not "minimum 1".
What was meant when it was written? I have no clue.
Unfortunately, there no specific ruling that states that you would be able to use it equal to how a Monk could. Keep in mind, you're NOT gaining the ability from the Monk's point of view, you're gaining it from the Feat point of view. Just like if anyone else in the game took the Feat. You just get it super duper early and without worrying about Pre-requisites. Specific trumps general. Now if the description for it in Tranquil Guardian said otherwise, that'd be different.
I would imagine you have 1 use of it per day until you hit 4, then you would have 2. 3 at 8. 4 at 12, etc. I believe this is the intention. It'd be silly to gain it at level 1 and not be able to use it until level 4.
Since it specifically states that you can attempt it once per day every four levels, that's exactly what you gain. It specifically calls out the Monk in the Special section to allow it once per day per monk level.
Suggestion: I'm sure you could houserule anything.
I disagree. If you look at the wording of the monk archetype it parallels the wording of the paladin archetype.
Paladin:
Touch of Serenity (Su)
At 1st level, a tranquil guardian gains Touch of Serenity as a bonus feat, even if she does not meet the prerequisites.
At 6th level, and every six levels thereafter, the duration of a tranquil guardian's Touch of Serenity increases by 1 round. Each round on its turn, the target may attempt a new Will save to end the effect. The duration does not stack; only the longest remaining duration applies.
This ability replaces smite evil.
Monk:
Touch of Serenity (Su)
At 1st level, a monk of the lotus gains Touch of Serenity as a bonus feat, even if he does not meet the prerequisites.
At 6th level, and every six levels thereafter, the duration of Touch of Serenity increases by 1 round. Each round on its turn, the target may attempt a new Will save to end the effect. This duration does not stack; only the longest remaining duration applies.
This ability replaces stunning fist.
The only place that it mentions the bonus uses per day equal to level for the monk is in the feat itself:
Special: A monk of the lotus receives Touch of Serenity as a bonus feat at 1st level, even if he does not meet the Prerequisites. A monk may attempt a touch of serenity a number of times per day equal to his monk level, plus one more time per day for every four levels he has in classes other than monk.
Considering that the same wording is used for the abilities, and it replaces the Stunning Fist ability of the monk, which has the same progression of uses mentioned in feat Special section:
At 1st level, the monk gains Stunning Fist as a bonus feat, even if he does not meet the prerequisites. The monk may attempt a stunning attack a number of times per day equal to his monk level, plus one more time per day for every four levels he has in classes other than monk.
Then I think that the intention is to take the progression of the Smite Evil uses per day, substituting the Touch of Serenity attack instead.
At 4th level, and at every three levels thereafter, the paladin may smite evil one additional time per day, as indicated on Table: Paladin, to a maximum of seven times per day at 19th level.
So the Tranquil Guardian should be able to use Touch of Serenity:
1st level: 1/day
4th level: 2/day
7th level: 3/day
10th level: 4/day
13th level: 5/day
16th level: 6/day
19th level: 7/day
The duration of which lasts for:
1st level: 1 round
6th level: 2 rounds
12th level: 3 rounds
18th level: 4 rounds
And does not stack, allowing a new save each round to end the effect.