Viking and Wild barbarian.


Rules Questions


I'm wondering how rage gained from a viking, rage domain, anger inqusition or wild stalker would "stack" with a wild rager barbarian. Would I have two different ways to rage? Would I have two separate rage pools? Would the levels stack for rage powers? Also would it be the same answers for an Urban barbarian?

I feel the consensus is that they stack for pool size and rage powers for normal barbarian. But I'm wondering about this case where the rage is altered.


This very much depends on the case. If pools stack and rage powers stack then if one ability alters a rage ability then it is altered for all rages. If that were not the case, you would have to keep two separate rage pools.


The question is though, each grant a different rage this time, when normally it's the same rage. And On the previous post, if you only have one, which is it? does the order of rages obtained change anything?

Sovereign Court

They stack if they say they do. If they don't say they stack, they probably don't, though this can be overruled by your DM.

Anger Inquisition: Says it stacks.
Rage subdomain: Rage rounds stack, but 1/2 your cleric level does not stack with barbarian levels for choosing rage powers.
Viking: Says nothing about stacking.
Wild Stalker: Says nothing about stacking.


So RtfnofdMax, you're saying that you have to separate rages and two separate rage pools always? What happens about rage powers then? Would you only use a "highest" effective-barbarian level to select which rage powers you can select? And the thing is, those rage powers would seem to work for both rages still, since how would you separate that?

Sovereign Court

Yes, that is what I am saying. Rage powers you gain from Viking will have to be ones you qualify for as a Fighter-3 effective level Barbarian, despite levels you have in Barbarian. If you gain the Extra Rage Power Feat, that will be limited by your higher effective level.

For a similar situation, think of a Cleric and a Paladin. It has been clarified that the Channel Energy of those two classes do not stack.

When I provide an answer on the forums, my perspective is always one of a PFS player, though I often provide that caveat that your DM can rule otherwise. My opinion is that these two should stack. I can't see any reason why that would make your character unreasonable. However, with my PFS perspective, I try to give answers that can be defended. Since I don't think that you can argue that the rules provide for the two to stack, I stand by my response, despite personal opinion, or how I would rule if I were your GM.


Thanks for the answers, I am wanting a response that is solid (basically PFS perspective) and not just a personal ruling. The comparison to Channel Energy was a good one I hadn't tied to this.

So if I got a rage lv6 and rage lv4 and I pick up beast totem, a lv6 rage power, would both have access to it?

Sovereign Court

Tough one. I am leaning towards yes since the prereqs for gaining it are satisfied, and the use only requires you to be raging. Despite the fact that they rages are different, in that they don't stack, I don't think anyone could argue you're not raging, no matter which version of the rage you use. No bullet proof answer I'm afraid.

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