Math Hard - How Much HD for my AC?


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Hi Everyone,

I have a sylvan sorcerer 4/fighter 1 with Boon Companion feat and Robes of Arcane Heritage (my GM says they stack - yay!). This should be easy but the level of fighter is throwing me off - what's my effective druid level to determine the HD of my animal companion?
Thanks!


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Your Sorcerer level +1.Boon Companion does not increase beyond your character level, so its useless at this point might be worth it later on if you intend to keep on taking fighter levels.

Don't know what your GM means with they stack,if he intends to ignore the text in the Boon Companion feat that explicitly states that it doesn't increase your Druid level for the Animal Companion beyond your Character Level then its 9,but I doubt it.


Boon Companion makes your effective Druid level equal to your character level, 5 in this case. Then the Robes boost it up to 9. Your GM does not need to "let it stack." They already stack just fine.


No Boon Companion increases your effective druid level by 4 up to to a maximum of your character level.If you have the robe its already higher than your character level so you don't get an increase from the feat.


He's saying its 5 from sorcerer +boon companion, +4 from the robe, which equals 9. And since gm says it stacks, then it does

9 would be the effective Druid level, then you go look under the Druid animal companion entry, and the number of hd for the animal is probably around 7 (not sure)

Edited: sorry I accidentally said fighter when I meant boon companion, and edited gmail to be gm instead. iPhone...


Sleet Storm wrote:
No Boon Companion increases your effective druid level by 4 up to to a maximum of your character level.

Correct, so Boon Companion bumps it up top 5. Then, the robe puts it up to 9.

Sleet Storm wrote:
If you have the robe its already higher than your character level so you don't get an increase from the feat.

Why are you applying an item before a feat?


The order in wich you apply them is insignificant,the bonus from Boon Companion does not exceed character level, thats the whole point of the sentence in the feat.

So if you play a Druid and then take a level of fighter and take boon companion you don't suddenly have an AC of your level +3.
Or if you take a Ranger then get Boon Companion and the Huntmaster feat,then you don't get an AC of your level +2.

If an item or feat or anything increases the level of your AC you lose that same amount of level increases from the benefit boon companion gives, it only works to bring it up to your level not beyond.


I agree with Sleet Storm. By RAW, it doesn't stack. As the OP's GM say they do, more power for him, but then he sould ask his GM how they stack too.


Thanks for all of the quick responses!

Now, I understand that the combo of Boon Companion and Robes of Arcane Heritage is hit-or-miss, depending on who you talk to. Fortunately, my GM says they stack so that's how I'm running with it.

Therefore, please avoid the "that's against the rules" statements. Much appreciated!

My confusion comes in with the level of fighter. If the character were simply Sorcerer 5 then the effective character level would be 9 (5+4=9). Easy, right?

However, I only have 4 levels of Sorcerer, so, would the sylvan power ignore my level of fighter and make effective druid level 8 (4+4=8)?

Or, in this case, would Boon Companion include the fighter level and increase it back to 9?

That's my question. Sorry if I wasn't very clear in my original post.


Sleet Storm wrote:
The order in wich you apply them is insignificant,the bonus from Boon Companion does not exceed character level, thats the whole point of the sentence in the feat.

Right, but the bonus only exceeds the character's level if you apply the item first. If you apply the feat first, it buffs it up to 5, then the item buffs it to 9. The feat has not exceeded your level, the item did. So, the order is absolutely critical to the issue, and it was my understanding that the PC gets to choose the most beneficial order for applying effects.

Sleet Storm wrote:
So if you play a Druid and then take a level of fighter and take boon companion you don't suddenly have an AC of your level +3.

Of course not. If you were a Fighter 1/Druid 4, Boon Companion would give you a companion as a 5th level Druid.

Sleet Storm wrote:
Or if you take a Ranger then get Boon Companion and the Huntmaster feat,then you don't get an AC of your level +2.

If you were a level 5 Ranger with Boon Companion, you'd have an animal companion as a level 5 Druid. Then you add in Huntmaster, so you'd have a companion as a level 6 Druid.

Sleet Storm wrote:
If an item or feat or anything increases the level of your AC you lose that same amount of level increases from the benefit boon companion gives, it only works to bring it up to your level not beyond.

Again, that is an issue of order, which you claimed was insignificant. Boon Companion increases your effective level up to your character level, and those others things boost it from there. I see no reason to apply the items/other feats first and Boon Companion later.

LibraryRPGamer wrote:

My confusion comes in with the level of fighter. If the character were simply Sorcerer 5 then the effective character level would be 9 (5+4=9). Easy, right?

However, I only have 4 levels of Sorcerer, so, would the sylvan power ignore my level of fighter and make effective druid level 8 (4+4=8)?

Why would it ignore Boon Companion? Boon Companion would make your pet equal to your character level (5), then the item raises it to 9.

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