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Female Human Paladin (Holy Tactician) 5 / Noble Scion 3 / Mythic (Guardian) 1
Xi'Tir wrote:

So much Flogging....

I see a pattern, Seraph is a masochist... ;o.O?

I can picture it now Pain! Lots of Pain!


Female Init +2; Senses Perception +10 AC 25 (Touch 12 Flatfooted 24) HP 43/89 F: +7, R: +4, W:+4

@Venetia Great movie, hilarious characters. Especially Wat. :)

Xi & Ti'Itza Shush about different games here. :P


Female Human Prophet of Desna | HP 74/74 | Hero 3 | Mythic 5/5 | Channels 6/6 | Agile 8/8 | Freedom 8/8
Stats:
AC 25/11/24 | Fort +8 Ref +5 Will +12 | Init. +3 | Perception +14, Darkvision | CM +6/17

My point of view of priorities:

1. Agree on Janus and now Anando's list of founding principles
2. Vote for leadership, and punishment for Anando's treasonous statements ;D
3. Distribute Stag Lord's land
4. Decide next priorities and who is tackling them:
- Finding Alexandra
- Liberate Lizardfolk swamp
- Kobold diplomacy
- Investigate/destroy undead

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Tar and Feathers for Anando!
Anando has another task... and Janus another one...
I think the question is: How many "task groups" are you going to make?
There are 9 Players, 18 PC Characters (including a new one ready to join).
So... 3 groups of 4 and one of 6? 3 groups of 6? Two of 9? Everybody together?


Male Half-Elf Haunted Oracle of Life (Ancient Lorekeeper) 8/Hierophant 1

What Tatiana said. Granted, Number 1 seems to have already happened via direct comment or lack of objection.

Indiana Janus and Neji plan to reclaim the Lost Arc Temple of Erastil and center Sevenstarland around it. They will formally ask for their help in-character once we finish up, but they want to take the Tir Sisters and the Lizardfolk with them.


Female Init +2; Senses Perception +10 AC 25 (Touch 12 Flatfooted 24) HP 43/89 F: +7, R: +4, W:+4

Corsario primarily

My point of view of priorities:

1. Agree on Janus and now Anando's list of founding principles

-> Already voted :)

2. Vote for leadership, and punishment for Anando's treasonous statements ;D

-> Tar and Feathering Agreed! ;D

3. Distribute Stag Lord's land

-> Will the Stag Lands require a team to completely capture or is it a moot point right now?
Especially since some of the Stag Lords men escaped?

4. Decide next priorities and who is tackling them:

- Finding Alexandra

-> Not sure who could tackle this... But a Team of 4-8 would be a must.

- Liberate Lizardfolk swamp

-> May have to wait until - Baronies are decided, the Undead threat is dealt with and hopefully a peaceful pact is made with Kobolds.

- Kobold diplomacy

-> Could have Maria and the Leventons work on this while we handle the harder problems.

- Investigate/destroy undead

-> Danath and Seraph don't mind investigating this problem. Maybe with Venetia and someone else?

- Find Lost Temple of Erastil(?)

-> Janus, Neji, Ni'Tir, Xi'Tir and Ti'Itza and Tepti? (6 Man Team)[/b]

My Suggestions would mean three teams, 4 (8?), 4, and 6 of the main characters.

I definitely see Finding Alexandria as a Major event requiring a ton of muscle and firepower to accomplish. The Bold is just my opinion as I mostly agree with Tatiana's points despite a couple of them being nearly completed like Janus said. ;D


Female Human Prophet of Desna | HP 74/74 | Hero 3 | Mythic 5/5 | Channels 6/6 | Agile 8/8 | Freedom 8/8
Stats:
AC 25/11/24 | Fort +8 Ref +5 Will +12 | Init. +3 | Perception +14, Darkvision | CM +6/17

I would not trust Maria to handle diplomacy on her own. That's just asking for problems.

I would really appreciate another PC leading the punishment of Anando

Priority voting:

  • Janus #1 priority is the temple of Erastil
  • Seraph top priorities are Alexandra and Undead
  • Tatiana's top priorities are kobolds and lizardfolk. Kobold's land are right in the middle of us now. Lizardfolk would help the two new PCs.


  • Init +3; Senses Perception +12, Fort +6, Ref +8, Will +3 Ranger 7 AC 21, touch 14, flat-footed 18 hp 82 (7d10+12)

    True the kobold are in the center but so far are not aggressive so we can work on attempting diplomacy while taking care of the major issues.

    I think Ni'Tir or Xi'Tir would be an excellent choice in heading into the undead lands. But I want to help Janus too. :/

    We could do teams of 4 Alexandria, 4 Kobold and then Lizardfolk?, 4, Undead Or temple of Erastil and 6 for undead? maybe?

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    On another note trying desperately to think of a good mythic path for Xi. Any suggestions are welcome... :/

    Work has been kicking my butt so I haven't had the time like i thought I would. :/


    Male Half-Elf Haunted Oracle of Life (Ancient Lorekeeper) 8/Hierophant 1

    Alexandria's Retrieval is probably going to take a while to accomplish.

    Would the sisters mind splitting up? Destroyerman and Neji's summons provide some good muscle as is, so bringing them both might be excessive.

    For Xi, I say Champion. It fits her. Maybe Champion-Trickster.


    Female Human Prophet of Desna | HP 74/74 | Hero 3 | Mythic 5/5 | Channels 6/6 | Agile 8/8 | Freedom 8/8
    Stats:
    AC 25/11/24 | Fort +8 Ref +5 Will +12 | Init. +3 | Perception +14, Darkvision | CM +6/17

    Thank you Venetia, but Anando is persistent. Remember the tar and feathers ;D

    the will wrote:
    ...I also declare that the Barons have the right to choose a new King by the method they see fit. About my fiefdom, I grant it to my Daughter, Alexandria, and name Venetia Medvied as her representative until she is of age."

    A potential answer is that choosing the king and Rupert's fiefdom are in separate sentences and thus separate ideas. The kingdom and "my fiefdom" appear to be two separate entities. Venetia was named the guardian of Rupert's fiefdom for his daughter. The fiefdom appears to be a personal barony within the kingdom, unless Rupert had holdings somewhere else. Otherwise, he would have been explicit about the daughter inheriting the whole of the kingdom.

    cheers

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    Rupert hand't holdings anywhere else...

    Could be... need to answer Anando...


    Female Human Prophet of Desna | HP 74/74 | Hero 3 | Mythic 5/5 | Channels 6/6 | Agile 8/8 | Freedom 8/8
    Stats:
    AC 25/11/24 | Fort +8 Ref +5 Will +12 | Init. +3 | Perception +14, Darkvision | CM +6/17

    Tatiana is not answering Anando.

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    Good one! :D


    Male Human Cav 4, Bard 1, Battle Herald 3 Marshall 1

    @Janus

    I agree with your idea of not taking too heavy handed of a team. Perhaps you'd like to select the members you prefer and those others who are going to pursue particular missions could do the same. Then we can build teams and really crack down on our multipronged goals. :)

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    By the way, if any of you wants a "special" mission (as Janus) just ask...


    Female / Male Human (Mwangi - Jambala Jaeg) Updated Quest Sheet

    Maybe later once we accomplish some of the more pressing issues lol !


    Male Half-Elf Haunted Oracle of Life (Ancient Lorekeeper) 8/Hierophant 1

    If you all want to secure the borders and/or push to river, then Indiana Janus and the Last Erastilian Temple can wait. Destroyerman, Neji's expendable summons, and Janus O. Healbot would be invaluable to any military campaigns.


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    Well Fort Drelev is still a bit beyond our reach for now. I would say we focus on what we've been posting. Until the dead are dealt with we cant be splitting the military.

    We have the K obolds to deal with which is major. If we try to ally with the nomen that'll be huge too lol.

    I see us as solidifying our hold here in the east before a westward.

    Imo.

    But your offer is noted but I want to see you get that temple! I think that would be a huge boon for the kingdom!


    Female Human Prophet of Desna | HP 74/74 | Hero 3 | Mythic 5/5 | Channels 6/6 | Agile 8/8 | Freedom 8/8
    Stats:
    AC 25/11/24 | Fort +8 Ref +5 Will +12 | Init. +3 | Perception +14, Darkvision | CM +6/17

    Fort Drelev is too far at the moment.

    Do the Lizardfolk want to go with Tatiana, Szymon, to the kobolds and then to their swamp?

    Tatiana would be good for the undead, but I think we should focus on the foundation of the kingdom first.

    Is anyone going to punish Anando for treasonous statements? Just asking. ;D


    Female Human (Varisian) Wizard(Diviner(Foresight)) 5/Harrower 3/Mythic(archmage) Tier 2 - HP:68/68; AC11,T11,FF10; F+5,R+5,W+9/+10; Perc+5; Init +7

    Kiritta is good with any group that might need some arcane power since she is the only full arcane caster, other than bards and our tiny summoner.


    Female Human Prophet of Desna | HP 74/74 | Hero 3 | Mythic 5/5 | Channels 6/6 | Agile 8/8 | Freedom 8/8
    Stats:
    AC 25/11/24 | Fort +8 Ref +5 Will +12 | Init. +3 | Perception +14, Darkvision | CM +6/17

    I think to score points for the locals Venetia should lead the troops against the undead. It'll probably be tough.


    Female Init +2; Senses Perception +10 AC 25 (Touch 12 Flatfooted 24) HP 43/89 F: +7, R: +4, W:+4

    Seraph and Danath want to bring the pain to the undead. A pair of charging cavaliers is gonna bring a lot of pain. So long as we have some healing support we can make a great stand.

    I am reworking Seraph's gear and gave her mythic power attack. So when charging she does a minimum of 72 dmg and a max of 96 per spirited charge...

    Add Danath and Calvary formation and they will decimate enemies.


    Female Init +2; Senses Perception +10 AC 25 (Touch 12 Flatfooted 24) HP 43/89 F: +7, R: +4, W:+4

    Add Venetia and maybe someone like Ni'Tir/Kiritta or/and Tarina perhaps and we should have a decent damage dealing combo, healing and arcane firepower/knowledge.

    So unless someone says otherwise I can foresee:

    Undead Slayers
    Danath & Seraph = Mounted Physical Damage Dealers, mobile combatants + their mounts for additional damage.
    Venetia = Holy Warrior various abilities and divine channeling.
    Kiritta = Full Arcane Support and blaster
    Ni'Tir = Divine support, physical support, healer
    Tarina = Divine support, healer w/Azurefang as damage and flanking support.
    Neji/Destroyerman = Summon Support, Damage Dealing and greater combat mobility plus flanking support.
    Arv: Because undead just need to get bombed...

    Kobold Diplomat Party.

    Syzmon = Physical Support
    Tatiana = Full Diviine Caster
    Tepti = Full Divine Caster / Sunderer
    Ti'Itza = Inspiration, Bardic Knowledge and light arcane support.

    Ti'Itza and Tepti can provide translation support to unless Tatiana and Syzmon have Draconic. (Just an assumption that the Kobolds speak Draconic)

    Indiana Jones team.
    AKA Temple Robbers Liberators...

    Janus: Full Divine Support
    Xi'Tir: Psychotic Damage Dealer
    Halcorg: HAMMER TIME! Master of the Beatdown Boogey
    Mulray: We need a cart for all the items we steal sell LIBERATE. And he's great with a horsepick~

    ( >.>); I know I am missing someone.................................................................... .........................................

    Anyway that's just an idea.


    Male Lizardfolk (8 RP) Bard (Thundercaller) 8

    @Taitana

    Sorry for slow reply, working nights...

    Sounds good, meet with our small scaled cousins and move to throw down the Honorless. Although we may need some more firepower to cast them down...


    Male Lizardfolk (8 RP) Bard (Thundercaller) 8

    Seraph....

    That looks somewhat unbalanced. I can say for certain the undead will be facing some extreme genocide with the first party.

    A pair of Cavaliers is bad enough, but a paladin, a full caster, summoner with reach eidolin...

    Oh nevermind, that would be plain nuts and probably fairly epic. Especially if Arv can throw bombs but it doesn't look like he can...

    I was very partial to the Grenadier for my Lizardfolk however an Alchemist Lizardfolk seemed a tad... Unrealistic.


    Male Lizardfolk (8 RP) Bard (Thundercaller) 8

    Sorry for my attempt at comedy in game, honestly unsure how to play the lizardfolk other then having them critique the strangeness of how you all do things. Tepti however has had a more divine hand guide her unlike her more barbaric skald companion.

    If it gets annoying let me know~

    And as you all know probably by now. The <'> Symbols by their text is them speaking in a different language, primarily Draconic. So hopefully I haven't caused confusion. I can put it in spoilers if needed.


    Init +3; Senses Perception +12, Fort +6, Ref +8, Will +3 Ranger 7 AC 21, touch 14, flat-footed 18 hp 82 (7d10+12)

    Lol Eugene you are as much as a Worry wart as I am, I think your posts were just fine. Despite the burn you gave us, except none of us know really what you said except maybe one person in the group lol!

    Your doing fine imo. :)

    Psycotic Damage dealer I prefer unstable but tomato tomatoe.

    I am interested in seeing the breakdown of the groups.

    Although until we get some good intel we can't really rally a Alexandria search and rescue team...

    But man if we can add The Lizardfolk, Kobolds and the Nomen to our kingdom... Holy cow we would be awesome!


    Male Lizardfolk (8 RP) Bard (Thundercaller) 8

    Agreed.

    Centaur Cavalier...

    Scary.


    Male Lizardfolk (8 RP) Bard (Thundercaller) 8

    You know you have no life when you answer within a minute of someone else.

    Sigh. :/

    Night shift sucks. (-.-;)


    Male Human Cav 4, Bard 1, Battle Herald 3 Marshall 1

    I cant say that Venetia will be leading the army as that wouldn't reflect well on Seraph but just the involvement of the newcomers over all will be a positive influence for sure. Her volunteering to do battle will be a great bonus for her. Same with the others. If Janus finds the temple Erastils religion will begin to flourish. Etc. At least that's bb I see it.

    Once the feast is concluded Danath is going to make good on his word and go out and mingle with the citizens.

    Hes going to get some face time and it shouldn't take long for word to spread among the Silver Dragonflight that he has returned. It will be interesting how this works out. I can see Seraph having her own separate force just thinking ngnon what to call them.


    Female Human (Varisian) Wizard(Diviner(Foresight)) 5/Harrower 3/Mythic(archmage) Tier 2 - HP:68/68; AC11,T11,FF10; F+5,R+5,W+9/+10; Perc+5; Init +7

    Kiritta speaks Draconic, heck with her Int, she speaks a lot of languages.

    She is not so much a blaster, but a non-summoning conjurer and a diviner. Her Harrower abilities can give some nice bonuses as well.


    Female Half Elf Dual Cursed Oracle of Nature 5 / Evangelist of Arshea 2 / Hierophant of Arshea 1

    I'm just throwing this out there, but it's funny how easily we could send the cohort's cohorts to do Wraith of the Righteous, or Iron Gods, as both those areas are just a short bit away from the Stolen Lands.

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    I must say that Tarina figured out as me... Yes, that is what I have in mind... Even Second Darkness or a modified Crimson Throne...


    Init +3; Senses Perception +12, Fort +6, Ref +8, Will +3 Ranger 7 AC 21, touch 14, flat-footed 18 hp 82 (7d10+12)

    Hmmm completing multiple adventure paths would be interesting. I'd personally would love some Worldwound action but Iron Gods is calling my name!


    Female Gnome Summoner 7/Archmage 1 | HP 80/80 | AC 18 | T 12 | FF 17 | CMD 13 | Fort +7 | Ref +5 | Will +8 | Init +1 | Perc +13

    Wouldn't they bulldoze through the first two books of any campaign sans Wrath?


    Male Human Cav 4, Bard 1, Battle Herald 3 Marshall 1

    Oh yeah, the first two books of any of those adventurer's would get smashed completely lol.


    Female / Male Human (Mwangi - Jambala Jaeg) Updated Quest Sheet

    That will make our enemies quake in fear of our legend! XD


    Male Half-Elf Haunted Oracle of Life (Ancient Lorekeeper) 8/Hierophant 1

    For the record, Janus and Neji will be joining the crusade against the undead before reclaiming the temple. As a holy man, Janus despises them, and several years ago, Neji was nearly killed when she accidentally walked into a crypt of walking corpses. Janus' timely intervention was the only thing that saved her. Also, both of them be very useful against them.

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    I have read most of the Adventure Paths, and, as in Kingsmaker case, I fell they are more worth it removing the "let's get from level 1 to level X" intro, and jumping into the real action...
    And that way we get more bang for you characters.
    And as mythical many things you grab you attention.
    But let's get your kingdom up and running first.


    Female Init +2; Senses Perception +10 AC 25 (Touch 12 Flatfooted 24) HP 43/89 F: +7, R: +4, W:+4

    Sounds good Corsario. You have me really intrigued with this Fort Drelev.

    We also need to divine Alexandria's location...

    But we have the undead to smash.

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    So as I understand it.

    Tatiana, Syzmon, Ti'Itza and Tepti are going to...

    Attempt diplomacy with Kobolds.
    Then go to lizard folk nation
    ->Restore Ti'Itza as chieftain of the tribes their.

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    Still need to decide how many of us are going to take on the Undead.

    As it sounds like everyone but the above are going. Which means we can separate into small groups and make it work or charge in en masse and smash the heck out of them.

    So for the undead lands we need to...

    Form team(s)
    Explorer farther then ever before into their territory.
    Find source(s) to the lingering undead presence,
    Eliminate sources if possible
    End undead threat.

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    If too many people are going then I may take Danath and head towards Varnhold and seek diplomatic relations with the Nomen.

    That way we possibly gain three allies and crush the undead in one fell swoop.

    This would allow us some reprieve to...

    Create some baronies
    -> Venetias
    -> Rupert's
    -> Danaths (If he is able to secure Lake Silverstep)
    -----> Once established he will seek to bring the Tor of the Levenies mountain range under his control and seek out resources for Slobada's use.
    -> Janus's, depending on where the temple is...
    Expand Slobada's borders
    Seek out the temple for Janus
    Plan our next military movements/invasions.
    Finish the transition period for whoever is to rule next.

    Just throwing out ideas.. ;)


    Male Lizardfolk (8 RP) Bard (Thundercaller) 8

    I am totally in support of Tatiana's plan for Ti and Tepti to go to kobold/lizard folk lands.


    Female Human Prophet of Desna | HP 74/74 | Hero 3 | Mythic 5/5 | Channels 6/6 | Agile 8/8 | Freedom 8/8
    Stats:
    AC 25/11/24 | Fort +8 Ref +5 Will +12 | Init. +3 | Perception +14, Darkvision | CM +6/17

    We could use another couple of pcs for the kobolds and lizards. It won't be a walk in the park.


    Female / Male Human (Mwangi - Jambala Jaeg) Updated Quest Sheet

    True that.

    Lets figure out who all is going to the Undead lands, from there we will see who is left.

    I'd like to see us get more then one task done at a time.

    If Danath wants to attempt diplomacy with the Nomen then good.

    But lets figure this out then.

    Diplomacy Group

    Kobolds & Lizardfolk:

    Tatiana, Szymon, Ti'Itza and Tepti.

    Nomen:

    Danath
    Going alone?

    Undead Exploration Team:
    Those with ? I am unsure.
    Janus
    Neji
    Seraph
    Venetia
    Arv?
    Mulray?
    Tarina?
    Kiri?
    Halcorg?

    Other Tasks
    Lost Temple of Erastil
    Locating Alexandria
    Expansion into Southern Stag Lands? This is probably handle off camera right Corsario?

    We also have the new player to consider... Depending on where they show up.

    I will work on a google doc fr the decision process instead of reposting this here again and again. lol may take a bit to get up...


    Female Human (Varisian) Wizard(Diviner(Foresight)) 5/Harrower 3/Mythic(archmage) Tier 2 - HP:68/68; AC11,T11,FF10; F+5,R+5,W+9/+10; Perc+5; Init +7

    Kiri and Halcorg would prefer being together, but either will go with any group. No real preferences.


    Female / Male Human (Mwangi - Jambala Jaeg) Updated Quest Sheet

    Roger that.

    Halcorg and Kiri - prefer to be teamed together. No preferences on which team they go with.

    Ni'Tir and Xi'Tir - No preference on being split or together. No preference on which team they go with.


    Female / Male Human (Mwangi - Jambala Jaeg) Updated Quest Sheet

    Corsario: Birth of a Kingdom Quest/Team Tracking sheet.

    Made it so anyone here with the link can edit it, if there is something off or you want to switch to a different quest just post in OOC saying youchanged it so I know. Or post what you want here and I can change it~

    I am including a page for team preferences like Kiri and Halcorg prefering to travel together. Stuff like that. So when we build teams in the future we can take it into consideration.

    Let me know what you think, its really simple but hopefully it helps!

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    Nice! Thanks!


    Female / Male Human (Mwangi - Jambala Jaeg) Updated Quest Sheet

    Anytime Corsario.

    I will break it down between quests. Personal quests. Barony construction. And multi step missions like Saving Alexandria which I assume will take a while... lol.

    Hopefully it will clarify things some. It will give us a place to copy and paste notes as well for specific things we find.


    Halforc Vivi 4/Fighter 4/MyChamp 1 Hp 82/82 DR 6/magic, AC (25), tch 14, ff (22) Fort +9, Ref +8, Will +2; +2 vs. pois and dis, CMD 25~29

    If no one is going to Fort Drelev, Arv will go where needed - though his sights are set to the northwest. His preference is to be with the Silver Dragonflight - either Danath and Seraph, or Seraph if the two are separated.

    Mulray will also go where needed (either for rogue-y things or hauling/transportation), and does not need to be with Arv.


    Female Init +2; Senses Perception +10 AC 25 (Touch 12 Flatfooted 24) HP 43/89 F: +7, R: +4, W:+4

    Once the undead are removed Fort Drelev will be Seraph's ultimate goal. Granted she still has an army to command. However opening up a trade route like that would be huge for the kingdom at large. And Worldwound adventures? Yes please!

    So no worries Arv as I fully plan to head northwest when things settle down. >:)

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