So, I was trying to find information on Natural Lycanthropes intending to build a Lamed Oracle of Battle. I was running a couple of the general pros and cons of lycanthropy by a friend (who is also a GM) when he mentioned that I'd be completely unable to handle silver, as lycanthropes have some sort of allergy to it(?). I was alright with that interpretation, as it generally matches with lore from other sources and Golarion doesn't seem to have offered us much in that vein, but then I read that Mithril is now counted as silver for bypassing DR.
I understand that this includes the weapons used against a lycanthrope, and that I'll probably need to be careful handling mithril weapons, but does this apply any sort of penalty to wearing Mithril armor or gear? Likewise should I be able to use other gear that happens to be silver (ie: A silver ring, a headband of intelligence or wisdom made from silver, silver amulets, mithril bangles, etc.) with or without penalties?
I can't actually find any rules apart from that lycanthropes have DR 5|10/silver, and that mithril now bypasses that as if it were silver, so I wanted to gather opinions or rulings.
Mithril counts as silver, but the lycanthrope allergy applies to silver.
That's like being allergic to apples. You aren't suddenly also allergic to oranges.
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rules wise, its not a problem. but if your going for flavor, rings and headbands should probably only be a minor inconvenance that you could ignore after some time to adjust. the armor should give you more penalties but maybe you could glue fabric around the edges the could touch you during combat to lessen or remove them.
rules wise, its not a problem. but if your going for flavor, rings and headbands should probably only be a minor inconvenance that you could ignore after some time to adjust. the armor should give you more penalties but maybe you could glue fabric around the edges the could touch you during combat to lessen or remove them.
I know that both depictions of fantasy warriors such as Conan the Barbarian and the Twilight depictions of werewolves may tell you otherwise, but you really should wear clothes under your armor. Even if you aren't allergic, it can cut you up with the edges depending on the quality of armor.
As long as you are not actually touching the mithral/silver, then why should it be a problem?
The jewelry might be more of a problem, since they are generally not made to have the same kind of protection under them.
I know that both depictions of fantasy warriors such as Conan the Barbarian and the Twilight depictions of werewolves may tell you otherwise, but you really should wear clothes under your armor. Even if you aren't allergic, it can cut you up with the edges depending on the quality of armor.As long as you are not actually touching the mithral/silver, then why should it be a problem?
The jewelry might be more of a problem, since they are generally not made to have the same kind of protection under them.
There are always seams and joints where padding and clothing might not cover, like the wrists, ankles, collarbone, etc. and failing that, you have to take the armour off at some point to eat or sleep, or just to clean/polish the damned thing to keep it from tarnishing and corroding. (Well, except that Lame oracles are immune to fatigue starting at level 5, so might actually not need to remove it to sleep.)
Only counts as silver for the purposes of bypassing damage reduction. It means someone could beat you to death with a mithral breastplate I guess, but not that your allergic to it if your allergic to silver. And no, wearing or using something that bypasses your DR won't hurt you unless noted otherwise.
And yes, please wear pants under your armor.
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If it counts as Silver, I'd have no problem house ruling it to FUNCTION like Silver (especially against a Lycanthrope). Does anyone know if we've had an official rules confirmation of this yet?
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If it counts as Silver, I'd have no problem house ruling it to FUNCTION like Silver (especially against a Lycanthrope). Does anyone know if we've had an official rules confirmation of this yet?
Last paragraph on mithral. Keep in mind lycanthropes can wear silver at no mind, so all it means is that you can beat someone to death with a piece of mithral easier than you could out of cold iron or mundane implements.
Items not primarily of metal are not meaningfully affected by being partially made of mithral. (A longsword can be a mithral weapon, while a quarterstaff cannot.) Mithral weapons count as silver for the purpose of overcoming damage reduction.
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Keep in mind lycanthropes can wear silver at no mind, so all it means is that you can beat someone to death with a piece of mithral easier than you could out of cold iron or mundane implements.
When it comes to Lycanthropes using items that reek of silver, I'd personally say they'd be loathe to wear mithral or use any sort of item made of silver (if for nothing else than to prevent irritating itching or rashes to due minor allergic reaction) but yeah, rule wise, they can use such items (at least as far as I know).
Yes and no.
It's true that Mithril counts as Silver, but only for the purposes of overcoming Damage Reduction. Other than this, it's nothing like Silver, meaning in this respect, it's a completely separate metal.
By this logic, if I wore Silver armor, it should weigh half as much, I should be able to have a higher MDB, lower ACP, plus treat it as one category less. But Silver armor doesn't allow this, therefore, Mithril is not the same as Silver.
So for those Lycanthropes, you should be fine with Mithril. As far as jewelry is concerned, using Gold metal in place of the more common Silver metal is a safer (and probably more effective) solution.
Lycanthropy isn't a big deal to work around if it's something you desire. However, most people can't/don't play Lycanthropes to worry about it, so the factor you can even have a Lycanthrope character that you want to play is a really special snowflake moment.