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The goal of this thread is to list all options players have to make more from their ability scores, reduce MAD or simply for optimization.
I made this list because some of those are hidden well within class archetypes and other places.
Also it's nice to have everything in one place and I plan to use this myself as reference whenever needed :)
If I have overlooked anything please tell me and I will update this list.
Key to the entries:
F = Feat
C = Class Special Ability
E = Equipment
Symbol – Name – Effect – Prerequisites – Limits & Restrictions
Options to replace one Ability Score with another:
F – Weapon Finesse – Dex for melee attack – none – light weapons only
F – Guided Hand – Wis for attack and damage – Channel Smite, Proficiency with deity’s favored weapon – Only works with deity’s favored weapon
F – Agile Maneuvers – Dex for CMB checks – none – none
F – Dervish Dance – Dex for melee damage – Weapon Finesse, Perform(Dance) 2, Weapon Proficiency Scimitar – Scimitar only, 1 hand must be free
C – Wizard(Universalist, Hand of the Apprentice) – Int to melee/thrown attack – none – limited uses
C – Witch(Hex, Prehensile Hair) – Int used instead of Str – none – hair only, can’t wield weapons, secondary attack
C – Witch(Scarred Witch Doctor) – Con instead of Int as casting stat – Orc race – scars are obvious
C – Sorcerer(Sage Bloodline) – Int instead of Cha as casting stat – none – lose DC bonus for metamagic
C – Sorcerer(Empyrial Bloodline) – Wis instead of Cha as casting stat – none – lose DR bonus to
E – Guided Weapon – Wis for attack and damage – none – costs money
E – Agile Weapon – Dex to damage – none – costs money
Options to add one Ability Score to something usually not applied to:
F – Kirin Strike – 2x Int to damage – Int 13, Kirin Style, Improved Unarmed Strike, Knowledge(Arcana) 9, Knowledge(one other) 3, – only 1 per round, Knowledge check dependent
F – Focused Shot – Int to damage with ranged attacks – Int 13, Precise Shot – 30ft range, bows/crossbows only, precision damage
F – Intimidating Prowess – Con to Intimidate checks – none – none
F – Monkey Style – Wis to Acrobatics checks – Wis 13, Improved Unarmed Strike, Acrobatics 5, Climb 5 – none (has additional bonuses above that)
F – Monkey Moves – Wis to Climb checks – Wis 13, Improved Unarmed Strike, Acrobatics 8, Climb 8 – none (has additional bonuses above that)
F – Fury’s Fall – Dex to CMB checks – Improved Trip – trip maneuver only
C – Gunslinger(Guntraining 1) – Dex to damage – none – only for selected firearms
C – Gunslinger(Mysterious Stranger, Focused Aim) – Cha to damage – none – costs grit
C – Barbarian(Rage Power, Raging Brutality) – Con to damage – Rage, Power Attack – costs rounds of rage
C – Barbarian(Rage Power, Raging Throw) – Con to CMB checks – Rage, Improved Bull Rush – Bull Rush only, costs rounds of rage
Options to use a skill instead of something else:
F – Mounted Combat – Ride check instead of AC – Ride 1 – your mount only, 1 attack per round
F – Indomitable Mount – Ride check instead of Saves – Mounted Combat, Ride 5, Handle Animal 5 – your mount only, 1 save per round
F – Snake Style – Sense Motive check instead of AC – Acrobatics 1, Sense Motive 3, Improved Unarmed Strike – uses immediate action
X – Escape Artist – Escape Artist check instead of CMB – always allowed
Would be cool to add which options are PFS legal and which aren’t. But I don't know PFS gameplay well enough for that.
Undead (race?): Add Cha to HP (also available through Agent of the Grave PrC, but only for the levels after you take the PrC, not retroactively).
Conversion Inquisition (class ability, Domain): Add Wis to Intimidate/Diplomacy/Bluff instead of Charisma (only available to people who can get Domains).
Monk AC Bonus (class ability): Add Wis to AC in addition to Dex. (can't wear armor)
Divine Grace (class ability): Add Cha to saves in addition to their normal stat.
There has been at least one similar thread.
And there is at least one trait that allows you to use one stat instead of another:
Your sharp intellect and rapier-like wit bruise egos.
Benefits: Intimidate is always a class skill for you, and you may use your Intelligence modifier when making Intimidate checks instead of your Charisma modifier.
@Rynjin:
Thank you. Of course I missed the 2 most obvious ones. Monk and Paladin ^^
Gotta add Zen archer as well.
There has been at least one similar thread.
I did a search before making this thread. However I searched for words like ability score, modifier, switch, change, stats and such. I didn't think of searching for the letters X and Y.
However I will have a look at it and see if I missed something mentioned there. Oh dear... it seems I missed a lot ^^Doesn't make much sense to keep this thing then. I just wish people would just name their threads appropriately so one can find stuff.
Thanks for the trait. I forgot to check those.
A few traits:
Pragmatic activator: Int instead of Cha for use magic device (no limit)
Student of philosophy: Int instead of Cha for diplomacy attempts to persuade, bluff attempts to lie.
Feat: Osyluth guile: Cha to AC, while fighting defensively, against a single person.
There are also a bunch of "class specific" cases:
Canny defense (kensai & duelist): Int instead of Dex to AC
Mind over metal (student of war): Int instead of dex to AC when in armor.
There are a few more in some of the weirder prestige classes/archetypes, might be worth checking.
Guided Hand doesn't allow you to use your Wisdom mod on damage rolls, only attack roles. Unless it has been errata'd and they missed updating the PRD.
You are right. The mythic version, which has the standard version as prerequisite, gives wis to damage.
Ah yes. Error on my part.
But in the light of the other thread this one is superfluous now anyway. I just didn't find anything when I was searching for it.