Summoners and Augment Summoning

[GreySector]

Would somebody please add this to a FAQ or errata? As it is the answer to whether a Summoner's summon monster SLA is affected by Augment Summoning (and any other feat/effect that applys to summon monster spells) is burried in a thread from 2010.

I would appreciate it if as many people as possible hit the FAQ button so that this can be addressed.

[Avianfoo]

(For those to lazy to click through) yes it does work.

[GreySector]

Avianfoo wrote:

(For those to lazy to click through) yes it does work.

However there is no way to know that unless you dig through a thread from 2010. This should have been added to errata (or at the very least added to the FAQ) years ago.

[Michael Sayre]

I kind of thought this was covered by the SLA FAQ(s)
but I can see where it might not be neatly accounted for. FAQ'd.

[GreySector]

Ssalarn wrote:

I kind of thought this was covered by the SLA FAQ(s)

but I can see where it might not be neatly accounted for. FAQ'd.

Thanks. That FAQ talks about prerequisites, but if the developers want SLAs to be equal to spells then they need to 'spell' it out. As of right now SLA != spell.

[eakratz]

Yeah but does it work for Summon Eidolon? It is a "summon" spell after all.

[Michael Sayre]

eakratz wrote:

Yeah but does it work for Summon Eidolon? It is a "summon" spell after all.

If you're using the limited duration spell, yes, Augment Summoning does apply. If you're using the unlimited class ability, it does not.

[GreySector]

Bump.

[Pathfinder Design Team]

FAQ: http://paizo.com/paizo/faq/v5748nruor1fm#v5748eaic9rbq

Augment Summoning: Does this feat apply to monsters summoned with summon monster or summon nature's ally spell-like abilities?

Yes.

[Zark]

Cool. I've seen this question come up again and again. Thanks for the answer.

[Samasboy1]

Augment Summoning wrote:

Benefit: Each creature you conjure with any summon spell gains a +4 enhancement bonus to Strength and Constitution for the duration of the spell that summoned it.

Eidolons are normally summoned with a ritual, not a summon spell. So they don't get the feat's benefit.

Eidolons summoned with the Summon Eidolon spell would benefit.

On the other hand...

Starlight Summons wrote:

Creatures you summon gain the Blind-Fight feat, a +5 bonus to Perception and Stealth checks in dim light or darkness, and their natural weapons are treated as cold iron for overcoming damage reduction.

Doesn't reference needing a spell to gain its benefit, and an Eidolon is a summoned creature, so I think it should apply to Eidolons summoned with the ritual or spell.

To be fair, James opined that it shouldn't work, but I don't see any reason why it wouldn't given the specific difference in wording.