
Archonus1 |
So, here's my question: Dhampirs have access to a magic item called Lenses of Darkness, which according to the description prevent light blindness, dazzling, and protect against Daylight and other light-class spells (to fix that class vulnerability).
However the description is very unclear about whether or not these googles / lenses interfere with darkvision / low-light vision. They're magical in nature (imbued with Darkness). I can understand that it might do so, but it's simply not clear.

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So, here's my question: Dhampirs have access to a magic item called Lenses of Darkness, which according to the description prevent light blindness, dazzling, and protect against Daylight and other light-class spells (to fix that class vulnerability).
However the description is very unclear about whether or not these googles / lenses interfere with darkvision / low-light vision. They're magical in nature (imbued with Darkness). I can understand that it might do so, but it's simply not clear.
I don't understand what is even implying that darkvision would be hindered. Can you be more specific as to why you think that's a possibility?

Archonus1 |
Just being careful. My GM can be a real stickler for rules. He doesn't really like it when characters find ways around inherent limitations like that (albeit very expensive ones). If it's a total fix, I'm just worried that he'll make an extra effort to pull something out of his hat that will exploit an item fix for a racial weakness... ;)

Chemlak |
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Nothing in the item description says that they interfere in any way with the wearer's vision. I'm with Jiggy: what makes you think they could? Don't apply "logic" or "reasoning" or "common sense" to the answer: what, solely from reading the item description, suggests that they could cause any sort of problem with normal, low-light or darkvision?

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Nothing in the item description says that they interfere in any way with the wearer's vision. I'm with Jiggy: what makes you think they could? Don't apply "logic" or "reasoning" or "common sense" to the answer: what, solely from reading the item description, suggests that they could cause any sort of problem with normal, low-light or darkvision?
The transmutation magic "infused with magical darkness". In general magical darkness blocks visual spectrum - ie sphere of darkness cast by drow. Would this magical darkness counter the "dark vision" and render the Damphyr with normal vision in darkness - similar to that of a human - it would only seem reasonable and balanced

Garbage-Tier Waifu |

Chemlak wrote:The transmutation magic "infused with magical darkness". In general magical darkness blocks visual spectrum - ie sphere of darkness cast by drow. Would this magical darkness counter the "dark vision" and render the Damphyr with normal vision in darkness - similar to that of a human - it would only seem reasonable and balancedNothing in the item description says that they interfere in any way with the wearer's vision. I'm with Jiggy: what makes you think they could? Don't apply "logic" or "reasoning" or "common sense" to the answer: what, solely from reading the item description, suggests that they could cause any sort of problem with normal, low-light or darkvision?
It uses Darkness in it's construction, not Deeper Darkness. Darkness only lowers the light levels in an area but darkvision otherwise functions as normal. If this was magical darkness like that of Deeper Darkness, then the lenses wouldn't even be possible to be seen through by anyone without the see in darkness ability.
Regardless, nothing in the description says that it prevents dark vision, just protects against light blindness and similar effects.

Dave Justus |

Just being careful. My GM can be a real stickler for rules. He doesn't really like it when characters find ways around inherent limitations like that (albeit very expensive ones). If it's a total fix, I'm just worried that he'll make an extra effort to pull something out of his hat that will exploit an item fix for a racial weakness... ;)
I suggest you show the item to your GM, and ask if he approves of it and if their are any problems he sees with it.
Getting 'proof' that it works as you desire on the rules forum probably isn't going to be nearly as effective as actually communicating with the person who will make the decision.
Even if you 'win' the particular rules argument, you aren't likely to actually improve either you or your characer's experience in the game.

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Just being careful. My GM can be a real stickler for rules. He doesn't really like it when characters find ways around inherent limitations like that (albeit very expensive ones). If it's a total fix, I'm just worried that he'll make an extra effort to pull something out of his hat that will exploit an item fix for a racial weakness... ;)
Everything here is correct, nothing in the rules say there is any penalty (beyond buying this item and not being able to wear something else in that slot) that applies to the character's vision.
That being said, it's your GM's game if he doesn't like things that counter inherent character penalties like this, then perhaps the best answer is not to come to the forums, but simply ask your GM what he thinks of the item and if he will allow it in his game.