Cutpurse / scout combo?


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Grand Lodge

So, im thinking on making a rogue with the cutpurse and scout subclass'.

There have been a lot of discussions about the cutpurse ability "Stab and grab", but there havent been a konklusion as of yet, that i can find.

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/rogue/archetypes/paizo---rogue -archetypes/cutpurse wrote:

At 3rd level, as a full-round action, a cutpurse can make an attack and also make a Sleight of Hand check to steal something from the target of the attack. If the attack deals sneak attack damage, the rogue can use Sleight of Hand to take an Item from the creature during combat; otherwise this ability can only be used in a surprise round before the target has acted. If the attack is successful, the target takes a –5 penalty on the Perception check to notice the theft.

This ability replaces trap sense.

So, as a fullround action i can stab and steal if my attack deals sneak attack. This is possible to use in a suprise round. and the taget gets -5 perception to notice if my attack succedes.

When this takes a fullround action, is it then possible to combine the "attack"part with a charge, making it more of a charge and grab kind of thing?


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Charge is it's own special full round action.

The cutpurse Stab and Grab action is specifically a full round action.

They cannot be combined they are both full round actions.

In order to use Stab and Grab (other than during a surprise round) you would have to already be standing adjacent to your enemy and perform a special full round action that consists of making a single attack and possible being able to steal an item. And in reality, the ability is very poorly worded because you never get a full round action on a surprise round (only a move or standard) so you technically should never be able to perform it as a part of a surprise round either.

Grand Lodge

thx.

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