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Yet another thread about Eldritch Heritage and blood line....
Yes in RAW ruling Eldritch Heritage can not take wild blood line powers.
But in simple A+B=C thinking it dose work... Here is why.
Now let us look at game with a different point of view. Not as GM or player but as writers and publishers.
What is a Archetype for a class?
It is Template that you lay over a base class that swap ability A for ability B at equal level.
Why do you make Archetype for a class not Prestige class or new base class?
WORD COUNT and PAGE COUNT for a book. First off it cheaper it saves on the page count higher the page count the higher book price lower profit for game producers. Gamers want small low priced books. Look at all the 8-12 page books for $2.99 or $4.99 for sale in the on sell now part of the web site.
What is a Blood line, Domain, Mysteries, Arcane School Specialist and or Patron?
It is a base set powers that you sub in for base class to change it. That are left blank till chosen.
What is Wild blood line, sub school or sub domain?
It is subset of powers that you sub into base set. That changes the base set equally.
Conclusion there for since we take it as all base blood lines are equal to each other. Also that power swap form base blood line to wild blood line are equal. Then taking wild blood power in place of base blood line power via feat is equal as well.
If as consumer if you say you can not take wild blood power via feat. You are say I want to pay more for bigger books that spell every thing out to me because I can not think on my own.
If as consumer say you can then take wild blood power via feat. You are say I want to pay less for smaller books that do not spell every thing out to me because I can think on my own.
What camp are you in?
If as consumer if you say you can not take wild blood power via feat. You are say I want to pay more for bigger books that spell every thing out to me because I can not think on my own.
Uh? Paizo Rule Enforcement team won't come and break down your doors if you, as a GM allow picking wildblooded bloodline power with Eldritch Heritage feat... It is GM who makes a final decision in this matter.
They provide GMs with coherent set of rules they can use or tinker with. Obviously the GMs takes responsibility for any tinkering done. If GM do not want to stray from rules they don't have to. This is the beauty of getting ready to use game mechanics instead of designing them oneself from a scratch. If they wants to tinker with them, nothing prevents them.
If as consumer say you can then take wild blood power via feat. You are say I want to pay less for smaller books that do not spell every thing out to me because I can think on my own.
Paizo designers never claimed otherwise - in fact they encourage thinking and making decisions by GMs for their tables.
Having a unified set of rules is only a basis and a need in cross-table games, such as Pathfinder Society where lots of players move constantly between GMs and houseruling would be detrimental to high degree of compatibility that is essential requirement of organized play.
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I'm in the camp that says you can't take an Archetype if you don't have all of the class abilities it replaces, so you can't take Wildblooded bloodlines like Sylvan, which also replaces Bloodline Arcana, via Eldritch Heritage.
To be fair, I'm also in the camp that says GM's can and should house-rule however they like in their home games. I just think the official baseline for this cross-section should be and is that you can't take archetypes or cherry pick archetype abilities when you don't have the relevant abilities they replace.
This thread, I'm sure, is coming up due to the ongoing debate over whether or not someone can gain an Animal Companion via taking the Sylvan Bloodline with Eldritch Heritage, which gives you an Animal companion in exchange for the 1st level Bloodline Power and Arcana of the Fey bloodline. My take on this is that you first have to take the Fey Bloodline, and then be able to take the archetype to qualify for the ability. Since it replaces an Arcana as well as a Bloodline power, and Eldritch Heritage does not give you an Arcana, I don't believe you can take the archetype abilities via the feat.
I'm in the camp that says you can't take an Archetype if you don't have all of the class abilities it replaces, so you can't take Wildblooded bloodlines like Sylvan, which also replaces Bloodline Arcana, via Eldritch Heritage.
To be fair, I'm also in the camp that says GM's can and should house-rule however they like in their home games. I just think the official baseline for this cross-section should be and is that you can't take archetypes or cherry pick archetype abilities when you don't have the relevant abilities they replace.
This thread, I'm sure, is coming up due to the ongoing debate over whether or not someone can gain an Animal Companion via taking the Sylvan Bloodline with Eldritch Heritage, which gives you an Animal companion in exchange for the 1st level Bloodline Power and Arcana of the Fey bloodline. My take on this is that you first have to take the Fey Bloodline, and then be able to take the archetype to qualify for the ability. Since it replaces an Arcana as well as a Bloodline power, and Eldritch Heritage does not give you an Arcana, I don't believe you can take the archetype abilities via the feat.
The Sylvan by raw doesn't work with Eldrich Heritage as doesn't give Blood Line Arcana, that is what gives you the animal companion and cost you the 1st level blood line power.
As for not have the class ability, you don't take the class. You take the bloodline and wild blooded bloodlines are valid in my opinion. So that's my take. Not saying it's RAW thought, seem kind ambiguous to me.