Probably obvious but just making sure. A PFS PC with 6 PP dies during a scenario. Even if points are spent to recover the body, he's still dead and remains dead, correct? Other PCs cannot use their PPs to raise him. Are there ways that I'm missing?
That would be one altruistic group of PFS strangers! Thanks guys, at least there're options I didn't think of.
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I was GMing a game of Veteran's Vault at the 4-5 tier. Had a family of four plus two guys who were very cool. The mom died and I was actually kind of annoyed it went down that way too, but they decided to run before completing the scenario. I asked if anyone would like to contribute anything to getting the mother a raise dead. Everyone at the table chipped in including the two guys...
It was her first character death and I could tell she was upset when it happened, but once we figured out the paperwork of it all, she seemed to be in a better mood.
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Probably obvious but just making sure. A PFS PC with 6 PP dies during a scenario. Even if points are spent to recover the body, he's still dead and remains dead, correct? Other PCs cannot use their PPs to raise him. Are there ways that I'm missing?
In theory - people could spend 2 PP to buy a 750 gp gem, and turn around and spend that gem to help raise another - since the 750gp item gained from a 2pp expenditure doesn't have to be magical - plenty of people have used 2pp to get a Masterwork Darkwood Long Comp Bow (+3 str).
so in that way they could use pp to help on a raise dead,
I have not seen it done, but in theory it is possible.
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Probably obvious but just making sure. A PFS PC with 6 PP dies during a scenario. Even if points are spent to recover the body, he's still dead and remains dead, correct? Other PCs cannot use their PPs to raise him. Are there ways that I'm missing?In theory - people could spend 2 PP to buy a 750 gp gem, and turn around and spend that gem to help raise another - since the 750gp item gained from a 2pp expenditure doesn't have to be magical - plenty of people have used 2pp to get a Masterwork Darkwood Long Comp Bow (+3 str).
so in that way they could use pp to help on a raise dead,
I have not seen it done, but in theory it is possible.
Any item purchased via Prestige has a 0 GP resale value, so that would not work unfortunately.
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Any item purchased via Prestige has a 0 GP resale value, so that would not work unfortunately.
Probably obvious but just making sure. A PFS PC with 6 PP dies during a scenario. Even if points are spent to recover the body, he's still dead and remains dead, correct? Other PCs cannot use their PPs to raise him. Are there ways that I'm missing?In theory - people could spend 2 PP to buy a 750 gp gem, and turn around and spend that gem to help raise another - since the 750gp item gained from a 2pp expenditure doesn't have to be magical - plenty of people have used 2pp to get a Masterwork Darkwood Long Comp Bow (+3 str).
so in that way they could use pp to help on a raise dead,
I have not seen it done, but in theory it is possible.
I went to find the rule that said that to quote it and I can't. Can you remind me where to find it?
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I went to find the rule that said that to quote it and I can't. Can you remind me where to find it?Any item purchased via Prestige has a 0 GP resale value, so that would not work unfortunately.
Probably obvious but just making sure. A PFS PC with 6 PP dies during a scenario. Even if points are spent to recover the body, he's still dead and remains dead, correct? Other PCs cannot use their PPs to raise him. Are there ways that I'm missing?In theory - people could spend 2 PP to buy a 750 gp gem, and turn around and spend that gem to help raise another - since the 750gp item gained from a 2pp expenditure doesn't have to be magical - plenty of people have used 2pp to get a Masterwork Darkwood Long Comp Bow (+3 str).
so in that way they could use pp to help on a raise dead,
I have not seen it done, but in theory it is possible.
The Guide, page 26, subnote 3:
3 Once per session, you can acquire any single item of
this cost or less from your faction by spending the
appropriate number of Prestige Points. Items purchased
this way are worth 0 gp and cannot be sold.
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I went to find the rule that said that to quote it and I can't. Can you remind me where to find it?Any item purchased via Prestige has a 0 GP resale value, so that would not work unfortunately.
Probably obvious but just making sure. A PFS PC with 6 PP dies during a scenario. Even if points are spent to recover the body, he's still dead and remains dead, correct? Other PCs cannot use their PPs to raise him. Are there ways that I'm missing?In theory - people could spend 2 PP to buy a 750 gp gem, and turn around and spend that gem to help raise another - since the 750gp item gained from a 2pp expenditure doesn't have to be magical - plenty of people have used 2pp to get a Masterwork Darkwood Long Comp Bow (+3 str).
so in that way they could use pp to help on a raise dead,
I have not seen it done, but in theory it is possible.
The Guide, page 26, subnote 3:
3 Once per session, you can acquire any single item of
this cost or less from your faction by spending the
appropriate number of Prestige Points. Items purchased
this way are worth 0 gp and cannot be sold.
Ah! Thank you. I was looking in the wrong place.
Well that's inspiring! Especially Huffstutler's and Zahir's post - not leaving a man out in the field even if dead. Omega's point on paying it forward is great, the PFS mechanism can really promote this sense of community.
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I mean, naturally, the cost for getting a body retrieved is 4PP, I don't understand why I don't get paid that for every Pathfinder's corpse I bring back!
You divide it among the rest of the group, and it rounds down to zero usually - sorry, that's the Pathfinder Corp. rules.
I hadn't before considered that although party members cannot pool PP to bring someone back, they could spend PP on Restorations, or even the Raise Dead if they spent all of it, since the spell-casting services don't *have* to be for you. Thanks All!
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Local organizer pointed out this, from 4th paragraph of the spending Prestige Point section of the guide:
"Player characters may not pool Prestige Points to obtain
more expensive boons or services, even if they are members
of the same faction. As a general rule, Prestige Points are
designed to be spent by characters on themselves.”
Might be for the best, given potential pressure. Seems ... bendable? I think I would quote this rule if someone tried to convince someone else to spend prestige for another, but would allow it if someone volunteered cheerfully.
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Actually, that 2 PP purchase of a non-magical gem could be pointed into helping cover a Raise Dead, since that gem could be a diamond, so go toward helping cover the 5,000 gp worth of diamond dust...
No resaleing the gem, just using it as a contribution toward the diamond dust cost of a spell, either Raise Dead or a Restoration to remove a permanent negative level...
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As it has a price of zero, it contributes nothing to the requirement of 5000gp worth of diamond dust unfortunately. Because it is worth zero gold.
Try again. It has a RESALE value of zero. It is still 750 gp worth of diamond for spell component use.
Either that, or you are telling me that my archer's Darkwood masterwork composite longbow (Str +3), with a resale value of 0, but a worth of 730 gp, could be made into a +1 Adaptive darkwood composite longbow (Str variable) with only 18 Fame, instead of 22?
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Actually, that 2 PP purchase of a non-magical gem could be pointed into helping cover a Raise Dead, since that gem could be a diamond, so go toward helping cover the 5,000 gp worth of diamond dust...
No resaleing the gem, just using it as a contribution toward the diamond dust cost of a spell, either Raise Dead or a Restoration to remove a permanent negative level...
and it is not diamond dust but a 5000 gp diamond required