Converting Arcana Evolved Classes to PFRPG


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Any advice on converting AE classes to PFRPG?

I'm especially concerned about the 21st to 25th levels, since PFRPG only goes to 20th. Would these classes just lose them? Or, are the PFRPG core classes strong enough to stand side-by-side with 25 level classes?

Also, could the class features from the AE 21st to 25th level be moved down to 16th through 20th without making the classes too strong next to PFRPG classes?


Mot of the stuff would fit as capstones just fine at 20th. I see no problems. Strangely, I was just thinking about the Akashic earlier for a Homebrew Project, lol.


Thanks.

My first conversion from AE to PFRPG is going to be the Warmain. It looks the simplest. Pretty much a fighter archetype.

After I see how that goes, then I'll better be able to approach the martial classes.


Yeah, the AE classes are kind of underpowered compared to both 3E (with splat books) and PF anyway. I'd just cram everything into 20 levels, and consider some further buffs. I'm not sure moving them to 16-20 is the right answer, though, albeit it is the easiest way to do it. Some should start coming even earlier than 16th. Some will necessitate pushing to lower levels some of the existing level 16-20 class features in order for it to make sense (like if the particular 21-25th level feature is a direct upgrade of something that is gained or upgraded at 16-20). Simply loading up the last 5 levels also means the AE classes will end up being "top heavy" -- too weak the majority of the game, but get too many goodies all at the end.

I think Akashic especially is going to need buffing, since he was "the skills guy" even more than a rogue was, and PF nerfed the benefit of having a skill in-class. Also, Oathsworn...just...they're even worse than monks, I don't know what happened there.

Magister is the only class I can definitely say will need nerfing. Greenbound might too, but definitely the Magister.

I think the biggest headache is actually going to be for all the classes with bard-like spell progression, trying to cram their lists down to capping at 6th level. Or changing the progression so they reach the spell levels they'd have by 25th level in AE by 20th level... Really, the spell system in general is what will consume most of the effort.

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I would recommend not converting the Magister. The Magister is my favorite spellcasting class for D&D-like games ever, because it combines all the advantages of Sorcerer and Wizard.

The reason I wouldn't convert it is that Sorcerers and Wizards will both become obsolete. The Magister has the flexibility of a spontaneous caster combined with the flexibility of a prepared caster. It can have as big a spellbook as it wants. It memorizes spells each day... but then casts out of slots as if its memorized spells were "Spells Known" for a sorcerer. So nice.

Alternatively, you could convert the Magister (and perhaps the entire Magic system with Laden spells, etc.), and throw out the Wizard and Sorcerer, allowing the Magister to replace both.


Thanks for the replies.

I'm in agreement with the idea that converting the non-spellcasters is easiest.


I just preposed the Warmain as a fighter archetype, though I admit it's crap. Here


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It's interesting, OmNomNid.

I'm not sure how I'm going to go about this.

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