Question about reach weapons

[Haco]

Hi all,

I see that some reach weapons have other special features as trip or disarm, and many brace but is not the question.
In the maneuvers section says that if you DON'T have the improved maneuver(trip, disarm...) you provokes an attack of opportunity.
This is my question if your enemy is not adjacent to you or he hasn't a reach weapon too, he can or cannot make me an attack of opportunity to me if i attempt a trip or disarm without the apropiated feat?

Thanks to all.

[Sior]

If he does not threaten you, he can't AoO you. However, you still risk being disarmed if you fail your disarm check by so much, threatening or not.

[Haco]

Ok thanks for the quick answer!!

[Starglim]

If he doesn't threaten your square, he can't take an AoO on you. You can still drop your weapon or be knocked prone if you fail your combat maneuver check by 10 or more.

[BigNorseWolf]

Yup. Makes a tripping polearm MUCH less valuable than it might otherwise be.

[Caderyn]

Remember the Trip property on a weapon is what allows you to drop it on a failed attempt rather than going prone yourself, and considering retrieving a reach weapon is fairly easy (especially with a weapon cord)

EDIT: Equally you could just take 2 levels of rogue and stand up as a free action everytime you fail a trip attempt

[Kyle Baird]

Caderyn wrote:

Remember the Trip property on a weapon is what allows you to drop it on a failed attempt rather than going prone yourself, and considering retrieving a reach weapon is fairly easy (especially with a weapon cord)

EDIT: Equally you could just take 2 levels of rogue and stand up as a free action everytime you fail a trip attempt

If you have a weapon cord or a locking gauntlet, do you ever really get the chance to drop the weapon instead of being tripped?

[Todd Lower]

Kyle Baird wrote:

If you have a weapon cord or a locking gauntlet, do you ever really get the chance to drop the weapon instead of being tripped?

Thematically I would say that with the locking gauntlet the weapon can't be dropped, but that with the cord you could drop it but retrieve it quickly.

Edit: Poor use of the English language.

[Kyle Baird]

Todd Lower wrote:

Kyle Baird wrote:

If you have a weapon cord or a locking gauntlet, do you ever really get the chance to drop the weapon instead of being tripped?

Thematically I would say that with the locking gauntlet the weapon can't be dropped, but that with the cord you could drop it but retrieve it quickly.

Edit: Poor use of the English language.

Sure, the weapon cord says "if you drop your weapon," but you're still attached to it. Who's to say that the attack doesn't just keep pulling your weapon until you're tripped? Oh, yeah. The GM.

People expect a lot out of a 1 silver piece item.

[Todd Lower]

Kyle Baird wrote:

Todd Lower wrote:

Kyle Baird wrote:

If you have a weapon cord or a locking gauntlet, do you ever really get the chance to drop the weapon instead of being tripped?

Thematically I would say that with the locking gauntlet the weapon can't be dropped, but that with the cord you could drop it but retrieve it quickly.

Edit: Poor use of the English language.

Sure, the weapon cord says "if you drop your weapon," but you're still attached to it. Who's to say that the attack doesn't just keep pulling your weapon until you're tripped? Oh, yeah. The GM.

People expect a lot out of a 1 silver piece item.

I don't know. I see you point. But you have followed the rules and dropped the weapon. You think the cord could still allow for causing the character to be tripped anyway? I think that I would rule that you weren't tripped. Also from a practical stand point all of the people that I know that use a trip weapon would have almost no chance of failing the trip attempt by enough to be tripped unless they were trying to trip a spider.