Feather Token, Whip
A token that forms into a huge leather whip and wields itself against any opponent desired just like a dancing weapon. The weapon has a +10 base attack bonus, does 1d6+1 points of nonlethal damage, has a +1 enhancement bonus on attack and damage rolls, and a makes a free grapple attack (with a +15 bonus on its combat maneuver checks) if it hits. The whip lasts no longer than 1 hour.
um... they forgot something really important.
Since the whip grapples them, the grappled character gets to make an opposed check to get out of the grapple on it's turn. What's the whip's CMD??
It's CMB is 15, which is a result of: (BAB=10)+(Enhancement bonus=1)+(Huge size=2) = 13. But it's CMB is 15, and it has no STR bonus since it only does +1 damage, so where did that last +2 come from?
I think it's CMD would be (CMD Base=10)+(BAB=10)+(Huge Size=2)+(Enhancement Bonus=1) = 23? Do I add the unknown +2 that the CMB gets? Also, do I not add the enhancement bonus? So would that be 25?
Help?
I'm not sure the whip is actually Huge, but rather it's a whip of a size a Huge creature would use.
I was wondering that as well.
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My question was what's the whip's CMD. Are you saying it's 25 like I surmised?
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No, it has no size bonus, it has the Grab special quality.
10 BAB + 1 enhancement + 4 grab = +15 CMB
CMD then, would be 10 Base + 10 BAB + 1 enhancement = 21
No, it has no size bonus, it has the Grab special quality.
10 BAB + 1 enhancement + 4 grab = +15 CMB
CMD then, would be 10 Base + 10 BAB + 1 enhancement = 21
How do we know that? It doesn't say it. Maybe it gets that +4 from weapon finesse and a +4 dex?
How do we know that? It doesn't say it. Maybe it gets that +4 from weapon finesse and a +4 dex?No, it has no size bonus, it has the Grab special quality.
10 BAB + 1 enhancement + 4 grab = +15 CMB
CMD then, would be 10 Base + 10 BAB + 1 enhancement = 21
Because it gets a free grapple when you hit. That describes the Grab special quality, and the numbers perfectly line up.
If that's not good enough, then you're not going to get the answer from anyone on the forum that doesn't work for Paizo.
Ok, makes sense.
Seems a little odd to me that they described the whip as huge but failed to mention the fact that it has the grab special quality or it's CMD.