Item Availability?


Rules Questions

Silver Crusade

Are blunt arrows and sleep arrows available as crossbow bolts? It is my goal to avoid inflicting lethal damage. I would prefer not to spend a feat to get weapon proficiency with a bow in order to use those types of ammunition, but I will if I have to.

Shadow Lodge

To my knowledge, there are no crossbow bolt versions of those presented in a PFS-legal source, so such versions are not available in PFS.

EDIT: That said, you can always take a -4 penalty to deal nonlethal damage with a lethal weapon.

Silver Crusade

SCPRedMage wrote:

To my knowledge, there are no crossbow bolt versions of those presented in a PFS-legal source, so such versions are not available in PFS.

EDIT: That said, you can always take a -4 penalty to deal nonlethal damage with a lethal weapon.

I can do that with a melee weapon, not a ranged weapon. The only way to deal nonlethal damage with a ranged weapon is with blunt arrows. I guess I won't buy a crossbow for now.

I even found a trait to allow me to use a slashing weapon for nonlethal damage without the penalty (Blade of Mercy).

Silver Crusade

As far as I can tell, there's just no way to do nonlethal damage with a simple ranged weapon. All kinds of trick arrows exist, but there is almost nothing for the crossbow, sling or blowgun.


throw rocks?

Sovereign Court

Finlanderboy wrote:
throw rocks?

Put those rocks in a sling?

Silver Crusade

Todd Lower wrote:
Finlanderboy wrote:
throw rocks?
Put those rocks in a sling?

I had not thought of that. If I use rocks instead of sling bullets the damage becomes nonlethal?

It occurs to me that Nonnie would be loath to pick up a crossbow in any event. After all, playing with a crossbow is what led to his trouble in the first place.

Dark Archive

Using rocks in sling doesn't make the damage non-lethal, just less lethal.

Quote:
You can hurl ordinary stones with a sling, but stones are not as dense or as round as bullets. Thus, such an attack deals damage as if the weapon were designed for a creature one size category smaller than you and you take a –1 penalty on attack rolls.

Silver Crusade

Yeah, I read that after I made that last post.

Doubtless, most GMs would be willing to houserule blunt crossbow bolts into existence; it probably would not be game-breaking to allow a character to inflict nonlethal damage with a crossbow at a -4 penalty. Unfortunately for me, house rules do not apply in PFS.

I think my best option will be to pick up proficiency with the shortbow or longbow at third level. I suppose I could take a level in a class that has the proficiency, but I think I would rather sacrifice a feat than a level of oracle.


Umm, what level are you and how much gp do you have Nonnie? Cuz though PFS doesn't allow for PC's to craft items, there's a magic quality called Merciful that is the equivalent of a +1 enhancement, that allows you to do an extra 1d6 damage with your weapon, and your weapon now deals non-lethal damage. The ability also allows you to suppress the Merciful quality as a free action to deal lethal damage, you just wouldn't get the 1d6 damage from the Merciful quality while suppressing the Merciful effect.

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items/magic-weapons/magic-weapon-special-abil ities/merciful

Above is the link to the Merciful quality.

Silver Crusade

Daniel Turner Zen Archer wrote:

Umm, what level are you and how much gp do you have Nonnie? Cuz though PFS doesn't allow for PC's to craft items, there's a magic quality called Merciful that is the equivalent of a +1 enhancement, that allows you to do an extra 1d6 damage with your weapon, and your weapon now deals non-lethal damage. The ability also allows you to suppress the Merciful quality as a free action to deal lethal damage, you just wouldn't get the 1d6 damage from the Merciful quality while suppressing the Merciful effect.

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items/magic-weapons/magic-weapon-special-abil ities/merciful

Above is the link to the Merciful quality.

Oooooh...

I am second level on GM credit (3 XP, 4 PA, ~1400 gp). I can't get one yet, but that is exactly what I want.

Thank you!


Welcome, just make sure to have keep enough money to get this!

Silver Crusade

Daniel Turner Zen Archer wrote:

Umm, what level are you and how much gp do you have Nonnie? Cuz though PFS doesn't allow for PC's to craft items, there's a magic quality called Merciful that is the equivalent of a +1 enhancement, that allows you to do an extra 1d6 damage with your weapon, and your weapon now deals non-lethal damage. The ability also allows you to suppress the Merciful quality as a free action to deal lethal damage, you just wouldn't get the 1d6 damage from the Merciful quality while suppressing the Merciful effect.

linkified

Above is the link to the Merciful quality.

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