Legality of Oracle and Dark Tapestry Mystery.

[Victor Beausoleil]

Salutations, new guy here, and I WAS working on a character concept I was very high on but it would seem that some peers of mine informed me that there were some aspects of it that appeared as if they might be contradictory or even outright illegal.

Doing some research, while a good consensus of people out there seem to disagree, however from what I can gather the Dark Tapestry mystery is completely legal unless that has changed at one point or another.

According to Archives of Nethys, however, this is not the case. Now then, the real problem is this:

I was informed that Oracles require a patron god associated to the sub/domain equivilent mystery, and if they are in fact right, this means that due to the Dark Tapestry subdomain being possessed by no legal PFS deities, that this would render the Dark Tapestry mystery unplayable.

While I've not seen anything that would imply that this is true, I have likewise not found anything that also disproved it.

"lthough the gods work through many agents, perhaps none is more mysterious than the oracle. These divine vessels are granted power without their choice, selected by providence to wield powers that even they do not fully understand. Unlike a cleric, who draws her magic through devotion to a deity, oracles garner strength and power from many sources, namely those patron deities who support their ideals. Instead of worshiping a single source, oracles tend to venerate all of the gods that share their beliefs. While some see the powers of the oracle as a gift, others view them as a curse, changing the life of the chosen in unforeseen ways."

The above within the quotations is not hard validation, however it would argue that the Oracle is not actually pidgeonholed into acting or worshiping the chief cause of their power (and plight, given they are universally cursed from the start). Given that Gods of the Dark Tapestry have been referenced in several books, even including The Black Butterfly's deity bio, that the Outer Gods are indeed somewhere in the vast recesses of the Material Plane within the Dark Tapestry.

Now my personal argument, assuming my friends were wrong, is that it should not only be possible to play a Dark Tapestry Oracle, but it should not be scrutinized as a PC choice since the character never got a choice in the matter and that the Old Ones goals and morals are beyond the scope of even mere godlings.

[Sniggevert]

Oracles do not require a deity, and according to the Additional Resources page here, Dark Tapestry mystery is legal for PFS.

[LazarX]

Victor the answer to all such questions regarding what's legal in PFS is found in two and exactly two documents.

1. The Campaign Guide currently at version 4... Free download from this site.

1. The Additional Resource section of the PFS sector of this board.

These are the first two stops you should be making for any question of this type.

[Harley Quinn X]

As said above, Dark Tapestry is in fact a PFS-legal mystery. Archives of Nethys shows the Open Road symbol next to the mystery, so it's legal. Perhaps you missed it. Head on over to the Additional Resources next time you have a question on PFS legality of content from source books.

And Oracles do not need to have a deity, which has been clarified in the Guide to Organized Play.

[Victor Beausoleil]

Oh no, I was actually going to go full on with the idea, but when I told a few of my acquaintances, they advised I ask about it first, and these guys tend to GM a lot.

I suppose it was just to make sure that there wasn't anything that contradicted it as a legal choice, because sometimes there are rule clarifications that take place explicitly on this board from what I gather ranging from Racial Heritage feat to Paladin deity choices.

[Karui Kage]

Victor Beausoleil wrote:

Doing some research, while a good consensus of people out there seem to disagree, however from what I can gather the Dark Tapestry mystery is completely legal unless that has changed at one point or another.

According to Archives of Nethys, however, this is not the case.

The Dark Tapestry mystery does have the PFS-Legal symbol on the Archives, it also indicates that it is legal.

[SCPRedMage]

The Archives are great and all, but it's not an official resource. You cannot rely upon it being correct as to what is and is not PFS legal.

[Victor Zajic]

I'm pretty sure the Cthulu-mythos gods are legal to worship in PFS, too.

[El Baron de los Banditos]

Victor Zajic wrote:

I'm pretty sure the Cthulu-mythos gods are legal to worship in PFS, too.

They are not legal from the Inner Sea Guide I found out, much to my dismay. Unless they changed this, but this seems unlikely.

[RtFM]

Victor Beausoleil wrote:

According to Archives of Nethys, however, this is not the case.

The place to look for legality is not the Archives of Nethys, but is instead the Additional Resources list: http://paizo.com/pathfinderSociety/about/additionalResources

[Mazlith]

Oracle of Dark Tapestry is super fun in PFS. I started one recently. During battle, every time I used gift of madness I maniacally laugh. I had everybody at the table crackin' up.

[Yiroep]

My Oracle of Dark Tapestry took the shapeshifting route with Many Forms and focused on it. He's dual cursed deaf/wolfscarred face, so whenever he shapeshifts he has a wolf face on whatever form he's in, haha. He usually ends up cracking people up, too (He's kind of dumb).

It's a really cool mystery, and the level 4+ bonus spells are kind of awesome.

[Karui Kage]

RtFM wrote:

Victor Beausoleil wrote:

According to Archives of Nethys, however, this is not the case.

The place to look for legality is not the Archives of Nethys, but is instead the Additional Resources list: http://paizo.com/pathfinderSociety/about/additionalResources

This is absolutely correct. While I endeavor to keep the Archives up to date in regards to legality, players should always double check the Additional Resources area to confirm things.

I only commented on this thread because in this case, the Archives listing matches up with the Additional Resources, so I am confused why the OP thought there was a contradiction.

[Dennis Baker]

If it were the "Archives of Abadar" they would be perfect in every way.