Summoner. Summon Monster SLA and Summon Eidolon.


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I am currently playing a Summoner. I read through the abilities and from the text I had a question. Am I allowed to summon a monster with the SLA then summon my Eidolon with the Summon Eidolon Spell. I asked around and others say no. Is this true?


You mean in the same round? Or just in general?


You certainly can do both in one round with the Quicken Spell feat. Summoning your eidolon with summon eidolon is different than performing the ritual and is a way to allow your eidolon to benefit from feats like Augment Summons.

Liberty's Edge

Well, the Summon Eidolon Spell doesn't work if the eidolon is already out. The SLAs don't work if the Eidolon is already out. It stands to reason that the SLAs and the Summon Eidolon spell are incompatible.


It does say this.

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Treat this as if you had summoned your eidolon normally, except that it only remains with you for the duration of this spell.

I think you're right.

Silver Crusade

Further support for NOT using the Summon Monster spell like ability and then Summon Eidolon the spell...

D20 PFSRD Summoner Class wrote:


Starting at 1st level, a summoner can cast summon monster I as a spell-like ability a number of times per day equal to 3 + his Charisma modifier. Drawing upon this ability uses up the same power as the summoner uses to call his eidolon.

You can read further here

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