dragon style damage qusetion

[Xavier319]

Okay here's the two feats, dragon style and dragon ferocity... the relevant parts anyway..

Further, you can add 1-1/2 times your Strength bonus on the damage roll for your first unarmed strike on a given round.

While using Dragon Style, you gain a bonus on unarmed strike damage rolls equal to half your Strength bonus.

the first is from dragon style, the second from dragon ferocity. Now. if you have an 18 str let's say, that's +4 to damage. your first attack each round, gets 1.5 times your str mod, plus another half of your strength mod? That's what I'm seeing, since the second effect is an addition. so if you had two swings, it'd go like this...

first attack 1d6+8
second attack 1d6+6

that's time and a half plus half again for the first, and normal, plus half again for each attack after the first.

am I reading this right?

[blackbloodtroll]

Yes.

[Xavier319]

cool, thanks.

[blackbloodtroll]

You are wondering about doing this during Flurry?

[Xavier319]

I'm assuming that when you make your 'off hand' attacks, you use half your str bonus to start, then add the 'half again' from dragon ferocity. so it'd be +8 and +6 for damage on your on hand, and +4 & +4 for your off-hand?

[Skull]

Are you an archtype without flurry?

There is no such thing as offhand attacks during a flurry. Its usually all at your str bonus.

Also note that this doesnt add up to 2x str bonus on the first hit. This is relevant to str scores that would round down, like 20 str:

First Unarmed attack damage 1d6 + 9 (1.5x5 + 0.5x5)
Second unarmed attack damage 1d6 +7 (1x5 + 0.5x5)

[W. John Hare]

Unarmed Strike technicaly doesn't have an 'offhand'. So if you were flurrying
1st attack +8 dmg
2nd+ attacks +6 dmg

[Xavier319]

Skull wrote:

Are you an archtype without flurry?

There is no such thing as offhand attacks during a flurry. Its usually all at your str bonus.

Also note that this doesnt add up to 2x str bonus on the first hit. This is relevant to str scores that would round down, like 20 str:

First Unarmed attack damage 1d6 + 9 (1.5x5 + 0.5x5)
Second unarmed attack damage 1d6 +7 (1x5 + 0.5x5)

I'm aware of the rounding down, thank you. Alright, that's true, no real 'off hand'

[blackbloodtroll]

Just wanted to check if you were using Flurry, or just Two weapon fighting with unarmed strikes.

There is a difference.

[Xavier319]

flurry.

[Kazaan]

Then yeah, if you're attacking at +4 to damage from Str (and presuming no other damage bonus) and doing Flurry, then with just Dragon Style:

1st) 1d6 + 4 + 2
2nd) 1d6 + 4 + 2

With Dragon Ferocity in addition:
1st) 1d6 + 6 + 2
2nd) 1d6 + 4 + 2

[Stalchild]

Kazaan wrote:

Then yeah, if you're attacking at +4 to damage from Str (and presuming no other damage bonus) and doing Flurry, then with just Dragon Style:

1st) 1d6 + 4 + 2
2nd) 1d6 + 4 + 2

With Dragon Ferocity in addition:
1st) 1d6 + 6 + 2
2nd) 1d6 + 4 + 2

I think you added an extra +2 to the first offhand set there...

I get 1d6+6/1d6+4 with just dragon style. The second adds out right, though.

[Kazaan]

My bad. I got Dragon Style and Ferocity effects mixed up.

With just Style:

1st) 1d6 + 6
2nd) 1d6 + 4

With Ferocity:

1st) 1d6 + 6 + 2
2nd) 1d6 + 4 + 2