I have a few questions about a monk using two weapon fighting (NOT flurry) with his unarmed monk special strikes.
Lets say our monk has the master of many stule archetype (so no flurry) and is level 6 (BAB4 and 1d8 monk unarmed damage)
Lets say our monk has Two weapon fighting feat, power attack and a 18 Strength score.
Monk special unarmed strike power extract:
A monk's attacks may be with fist, elbows, knees, and feet. This means that a monk may make unarmed strikes with his hands full. There is no such thing as an off-hand attack for a monk striking unarmed. A monk may thus apply his full Strength bonus on damage rolls for all his unarmed strikes.
Now the monk does a full attack against an opponent using TWF and power attack and both attacks hit.
First question:
What kind of damage is the monk doing with each of his two attacks (i.e. is the TWF attack doing same damage than the main attack)?
My thinking is the two attacks do the same damage that is:
1d8+4(full STR bonus)+4(full power attack with BAB4 for one handed weapon).
Am i wrong ?
Second question:
seen the unarmed monk attack can be done with kness and feet, would it be possible for our monk to use a shield in one of his hands (to gain shield AC bonus, not to use offensively) while still using TWF ?
If yes, will it have an impact on the damage of the two attacks ?
Thanks for any help
Seems right based off RAW
Remember if you use a shield you lose your monk AC bonus and fast movement
Remember if you use a shield you lose your monk AC bonus and fast movement
Yup, thats a taken.
Anyone else agreeing/disagreeing on my two points ?
What kind of damage is the monk doing with each of his two attacks (i.e. is the TWF attack doing same damage than the main attack)?
Each attack does full damage. There is no such thing as an off-hand attack for a monk unarmed strike. All attacks are main hand attacks even if you use TWF.
Second question:
seen the unarmed monk attack can be done with kness and feet, would it be possible for our monk to use a shield in one of his hands (to gain shield AC bonus, not to use offensively) while still using TWF ?
If yes, will it have an impact on the damage of the two attacks ?
Yes you you can use a shield. No it won't affect the damage at all. Not sure why you would want to full-attack without using flurry of blows though. When you flurry, your BAB is equal to your monk level, whereas if you full-attack you use 3/4 BAB. You have a lower chance to hit and are doing the same amount of damage while also wasting a feat that you already gain the effects of through the use of a class feature. Even if you are only dipping in monk it is still better to flurry. The +1 BAB will still be better than the +0 BAB you would get otherwise.
Not sure why you would want to full-attack without using flurry of blows though.
Because you didn't have flurry of blows?
Not sure why you would want to full-attack without using flurry of blows though.Because you didn't have flurry of blows?
Ah, I missed that detail. Now I see why. Carry on. :)
I would say yes on the damage, but no on extra attack with the shield wielded.
"If you wield a second weapon in your off hand...."
You do not have a 'weapon' in your second hand. It is occupied with a shield. Which I guess you could claim as a weapon if you wanted to shield bash... but are now losing your AC bonus unless you invest in that feat (forget the name) and doing less damage. Meyh.... I could keep analysing, but I don't want to right now. Brain is a hurty thing.
Either way. TWF is an attack with either hands. Flurry from memory is the exception saying "Yeah... just hit with whatever. It's cool."
At a 'Fluff' level, having a monk with his hands occupied shouldn't matter because he can kick, punch, gouge etc etc. Unless it threw him off balance or messed with his Ki or something (They do lose their armour and move bonus when weilding a shield... it's possible).
At a rules level, I'm not sure they balanced the monk with the idea that "And he'll always have a quickdraw shield because he'll run up, then pop it out when in range of things, and still TWF with his fists."
You do gain a second attack while carrying a shield. TWF rules trump normal rules. UA rules trump TWF rules by allowing you to use other parts of your body JUST LIKE armor spikes do.
and you would be at a penalty to the shield bash... >.> non prof... twf (shield != light weapon)
and iirc some styles require free hands...
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The Shield is a weapon. All feats, effects, and abilities treat it so.
There exists no "fist only" restriction with unarmed strikes.
Anyone, even non-Monks, and those without the Improved Unarmed Strike feat, can make unarmed strikes.
You do not even need arms, or legs.
An Ooze can make an unarmed strike.
generally more accurately referred to as a slam :P
Not sure why you'd want to wear a shield as a monk. But if you did, and you're using styles, you should probably use a buckler. No penalty for non proficiency (mithral buckler), and it leaves the hand free for styles that require your hand to be empty.