monstrous physique I questions


Rules Questions


So, monstrous physique I says: If the form you assume has any of the following abilities, you gain the listed ability: climb 30 feet, fly 30 feet (average maneuverability), swim 30 feet, darkvision 60 feet, low-light vision, and scent. If the form you assume has the aquatic subtype, you gain the aquatic and amphibious subtypes.

My question is: if I assume the form of a gargoyle, for example, does that count? The gargoyle has 60 ft (average) flight speed. If I switch to a gargoyle, do I get 30 ft (average), or do I get nothing since a gargoyle doesn't have 30 ft (average) flight, but 60ft? I assume the former, but figure I'd ask. Additionally, an Ala has 30 ft (perfect) flight speed. Could I change into that and get the 30ft (average) speed instead?

Also, since Monstrous Physique is a polymorph effect, do I gain all of the natural attacks of that form? I believe so, but I'm thrown off because Undead Anatomy grants a claw/claw/bite specifically in the text of the spell.

Thanks!


You get 30 ft average, and all its natural attacks.

For Undead anatomy : its an exception.


Read the spell this way, it should help:

If the form you assume has any of the following abilities regardless of the details of that ability, you gain the listed ability but adjusted with the following details...

That is exactly what the text means, they just wrote it more concisely.

Edit: I should have been more clear: Monstrous Physique does not give you any natural attacks other than the ones listed for the monstrous humanoid creature you resemble (most of them don't have natural attacks). If spell granted anything else, it would need to say so. Remember that you might get a bite or claw attack from some monstrous humanoids, but you still have to use your own BAB and STR modifiers, so you don't really get the attacks of the monster, you just get a simulation of them.


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All the polymorph conjuration spells give you the natural attacks of the assumed form. It is list in the school description. I mean it would really suck t turn into a dragon or any other animal shape and find you had no attack options at all.


thanks for the responses!

Sabosan seems like the best choice for Monstrous Physique I, in my opinion.

Sabosan

I assume you get the damage dice of the listed natural attacks, even though you use your own strength score.


The polymorph subschool rules state that "If the form you choose grants these benefits, or a greater ability of the same type, you gain the listed benefit. If the form grants a lesser ability of the same type, you gain the lesser ability instead."

So both shifting into a 60-ft-average and a 30-ft-perfect form will grant you the 30-ft-average speed of Monstrous Physique I.

However, shifting into a form with 60-ft-clumsy will grant you 30-ft-clumsy (as clumsy is lesser than average), while shifting into a form with 20-ft-average will grant you 20-ft-average (since 20-ft is lesser than 30-ft).

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