Vivisectionist Sap Master Natural Attacker?


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I want to make something that does massive Sneak Attack damage with nonlethal, blunt weapons. I was hoping to use natural attacks, particularly claws, but I'm not really sure how to get more attacks. Catfolk gets two claws and higher damage on them, so that is probably ideal.

But, what about using Vestigial Arm x2 and taking Aspect of the Beast somehow, that'd be 4 claws and a bite. Anything else? I've been working on this build forever, but I can't find a good way to make it work.


Ew.


Vestigal arms do not give you extra attacks.

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Cheapy wrote:
Ew.

I agree with Cheapy... i can't think of any way to make this work that won't make you the most boring character ever. And as soon as you come up on an undead creature, who don't take nonlethal damage, you're screwed.


Cheapy wrote:
Ew.

Hah. I'm in a two-man party. The characters we had made were a Ranger and a Ranger. I'm hoping to do something a little more versatile instead and add something that has a bit more magic available.


cartmanbeck wrote:
Cheapy wrote:
Ew.
I agree with Cheapy... i can't think of any way to make this work that won't make you the most boring character ever. And as soon as you come up on an undead creature, who don't take nonlethal damage, you're screwed.

It's not a pushover doing lethal damage, it's just much scarier with it.


Rowe how many levels do I get to use?


Starting at 4. Up to 20.


If you got Straight Rogue

At 20 within 30ft
Many Shot Rapid Shot and Sniper Goggles (Blunt Tipped Arrows)
Many Shot
First Attack
1.20D6+ 4
1.20D6+ 4
Second Attack
2.20D6+4
Third Attack
3.20d6 +4
Fourth Attack
4.20d6+4
Surprise Round
100D6 +400

Dull Wielding Saps
20d6 + 2 Per
20d6 + 2 Per
Second Attack
20d6 + 2 Per
20D6 + 2 Per
Third Attack
20d6 + 2 Per
20D6 + 2 Per
Fourth Attack (Haste)
20d6 + 2 Per

140D6 + 240


Now if you are going for Natural Attacks we take to the next Level

14 Rogue 6 Druid

Sneak Pounce

20D6+ 40 + 20D6 +40
Free Grapple Check
Next Round
they are denied their Dex if you hold your Grab
Repeat Destruction

And then even if you lose the hold

Hunters Surprise Then you get ALL your Attacks with sneak Damage

You would not be able to Rake


Correction 14D6 + 28


Vivisectionist is an Alchemist archetype. I was going to do 2 to 4 levels of Rogue and run the rest as Alch


I'd drop the Rogue entirely. If you want Aspect of the Beast to add more claws to your attack routine, dip Ranger for 2 levels to qualify for it in the fastest manner possible. Take Ranger at 1st level for the higher HD, then go 2 Alchemist levels so you can start grabbing Extra Discovery at 3rd level before getting the 2nd ranger level.

For race, you'd want one with claws, or you can try to get by on Feral Mutagen, but that can be dicey (Later on, Undead Anatomy I extract is a good way to add claws and bite for a combat). Tiefling is pretty nice, good stats and handy variant racial options, including a choice of 2 claws or 1 bite. Ratfolk is also very good if you can get your friend to be one with you so you can swarm together for flanking.

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