[Homebrew] Eldritch-Touched -- Fighter Archetype


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Hi everyone. I wanted to get some quick community feedback on a fighter archetype that incorporates sorcerer bloodlines without any casting ability (like the Eldritch Heritage feats). Would this be utterly unbalanced? I'm a long-time D&D player, but relatively new to PF. Thanks for any feedback or suggestions to make it workable. Below is a rough outline/start of the archetype.

Eldritch-Touched

A very faint hint of sorcerous power from some distant eldritch heritage flows through your veins. While not enough to manifest as full-blown spell casting, you can still, on occasion, tap into your arcane ancestry.

At 1st level the eldritch-touched fighter selects a sorcerer bloodline. She gains the Skill Focus feat in that bloodline’s class skill. That skill is also counted as a class skill for her, if not already a class skill. She gains no other powers associated with the bloodline. Once selected, she may not change bloodlines—Replaces bonus feat (1st)

Starting at 2nd, the eldritch-touched fighter may use any fighter bonus feats to select combat feats or bonus feats associated with her sorcerer bloodline.

Arcane Strike feat (fighter level –1 counts as caster level)—replaces bravery (2nd)

Starting at 3rd, the eldritch-touched fighter begins gaining bloodline powers from her selected bloodline (fighter level –2 counts as sorcerer level).
Bloodline power (1st)—Replaces armor training 1
Bloodline power (3rd)—Replaces armor training 2
Bloodline power (9th)—Replaces armor training 3
Bloodline power (15th)—Replaces armor training 4
Bloodline power (20th)—Replaces armor mastery

Liberty's Edge

It doesn't look over powered to me.

How does the fighter gain the 20th level power if her fighter level - 2 counts as her sorcerer level?


Not sure if I'd give the Arcane Strike feat, nor would I necessarily count them as Having a caster level counted as Fighter level-1 for one thing, and sorcerer level counted as Fighter level-2 for another.

Also, I'm concerned about the fact that a fighter gets the 20th level power for a sorcerer a level before a full-classed sorcerer would get it.

Apart from that, I don't know all the bloodlines well enough to know if there's any specific choice that can be abused for cheese, but it seems to me that the bloodline powers are better than what's being given up, though, it may not matter that much.


ShadowcatX wrote:

It doesn't look over powered to me.

How does the fighter gain the 20th level power if her fighter level - 2 counts as her sorcerer level?

Thanks ShadowcatX for pointing out the problem. I was thinking that any of the powers that were affected by level, like damage bonuses, would count at the fighter level minus 2. Armor mastery is level 19 for a fighter, so this archetype would get the level 20 bloodline power at level 19 (yeah, I know, that is before a sorcerer would get it).


It sort of makes sense that if the Fighter is focusing all his confidence into the bloodline powers and completely eschewing spells whereas the full-class Sorcerer is being attentive to both casting and powers, the Fighter can sort of "fast-track" his bloodline power to completely manifest by level 19 rather than 20. The Sorcerer is, essentially, delayed by 1 level in his power progression because he's also being attentive to his spellcasting ability which the Fighter isn't distracted by.


Thanks for the feedback everyone. I'm really impressed with how friendly the Pathfinder community is.

I do like the customization and flavor that archetypes add to the game. I've played many melee/fighter types and have made a lot of (failed) attempts at integrating magic into the builds. I like the idea of a fighter with something "special" extra, but never wanted to be a caster. That meant dipping into bard, sorcerer, or other casters types just for a flavor ability that will probably be useless at higher levels. The 3 Eldritch Heritage feats in UM make it seem like Paizo doesn't mind the idea of a fighter (or other class) having access to bloodline powers. Arcane Strike is just a cool feat that it would be nice to get without having to dip a level into arcane duelist bard. From some things I've read on the forums, it seems somewhat encouraged to pick an archetype and stay one class -- and I thought this archetype would allow for that. It is also a fighter archetype that benefits from a high Charisma, which is something different.

It would be more painful, but I could replace Weapon Training 1 through 4 and mastery instead of armor training to get the bloodline powers. That would put the level 20 bloodline power at 20th level. It would suck, because weapon training gives some nice bonuses -- but I really am trying to make something balanced, not cheesy. My group moans at some of my ill-fated attempts to integrate magical flair into an otherwise straight fighter build. It would be nice to have an archetype that allowed for it to be done effectively and without twisting the rules in knots.

Thanks again for the input.


Leave it as is i say, bloodline abilities a just gravy for the sorcerer, who determines them with their abilities with their primary class stat. I say let them have the early capstone.

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