| Karse |
Hmm too excesive dmg I might say....
Ifrit - Alchemist Lv10
+1/2 Bomb Damage from Favorite class
Lets say Int 20 base + 4 Headband Vast Int, +4 Cognatogen + 2 Lv4/Lv8 = 30
Bomb Damage 5d6 + 10 Int Mod + 5 Favorite class + 1 Point Blank
Splash Damage 21 dmg
Improved Two Weapon + Rapid Shot + Haste = 6 attacks
6 Sticky Bombs do 30d6 + 96 in one round.
The Next round the target that got hit by all 6 bombs splash gets an automatic Splash dmg of 21 x 6 = 126? and of course the Alchemist can attack again.
Reflex Save is quite high
10 + 1/2 Alch Lv + 10 Int mod = DC 25
| Karse |
I used Ifrit as an example but there are other races with Bomb damage from Favorite Class too like Half-Orc and Tiefling.
If sticky bombs stack with itself by the number of bombs thrown at a single enemy in 1 round, then this pretty much obliterates any opponent by round 2 without any protection of fire alone.
Also Sticky Bomb dont have the * so it can be combined with any Elemental damage bomb to get around Fire resistance and immunities.
ShadowcatX
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Ifrit is a particularly poor example since they can't start with a 20 intelligence.
That said, you're using up your daily allotment of bombs in what 2 - 3 turns, and using your mutagen and using haste, with all that you should be able to do good damage.
Beyond that, alchemist is one of the best dpr classes in the game.
| mplindustries |
So, you're concerned that someone who uses 1/3 of their daily resources on an enemy can kill it easily?
You've spent literally all of your feats on this (Point Blank, Precise, TWF, ITWF, Rapid Shot), the majority of your point buy*, your archetype, all your favored class bonuses, etc. You can unload like that three times and then you're done. For the day. What else can this character even do?
*Ifrits can't start with 20 Int since they get Dex and Cha, so I'm assuming you're using a half-orc, which also gets the bomb damage favored class option. But then, you spent 30 point buy on starting with an 18 Int and a 17 Dex (to get Improved TWF), so unless you have hax rolls, or ridiculous point buy, you've got only Dex and Int, which does nothing for you outside of throwing bombs.
| Karse |
Ifrit is a particularly poor example since they can't start with a 20 intelligence.
That said, you're using up your daily allotment of bombs in what 2 - 3 turns, and using your mutagen and using haste, with all that you should be able to do good damage.
Beyond that, alchemist is one of the best dpr classes in the game.
ahh yah my bad... on the Ifrit. Take Tiefling then Int and Dex +2 Cha -2
| Karse |
So, you're concerned that someone who uses 1/3 of their daily resources on an enemy can kill it easily?
You've spent literally all of your feats on this (Point Blank, Precise, TWF, ITWF, Rapid Shot), the majority of your point buy*, your archetype, all your favored class bonuses, etc. You can unload like that three times and then you're done. For the day. What else can this character even do?
*Ifrits can't start with 20 Int since they get Dex and Cha, so I'm assuming you're using a half-orc, which also gets the bomb damage favored class option. But then, you spent 30 point buy on starting with an 18 Int and a 17 Dex (to get Improved TWF), so unless you have hax rolls, or ridiculous point buy, you've got only Dex and Int, which does nothing for you outside of throwing bombs.
With that much dmg he probably dont even need to use all 6 attacks in one round to kill someone, so might not need to spent all his bomb arsenal right away.
Dex help of course but doesnt have that much impact. Even with a decent dex the Alch can still pretty much almost anything since bombs are touch attacks.
hmm That guy would have 20 bombs a day I think. Alch Lv + 10 Int mod.
But anyhow will all those sticky bombs will stack with each other assuming he use many bombs in a single round?
| Karse |
So, you're concerned that someone who uses 1/3 of their daily resources on an enemy can kill it easily?
You've spent literally all of your feats on this (Point Blank, Precise, TWF, ITWF, Rapid Shot), the majority of your point buy*, your archetype, all your favored class bonuses, etc. You can unload like that three times and then you're done. For the day. What else can this character even do?
*Ifrits can't start with 20 Int since they get Dex and Cha, so I'm assuming you're using a half-orc, which also gets the bomb damage favored class option. But then, you spent 30 point buy on starting with an 18 Int and a 17 Dex (to get Improved TWF), so unless you have hax rolls, or ridiculous point buy, you've got only Dex and Int, which does nothing for you outside of throwing bombs.
About running out of daily bombs... Dunno if this works but could be an option in case the alchemist ran out of bombs.
How about if you buy Alchemist Fire?
Since the Throw Anything ability add Int mod to the bomb damage including the splash if have any in which case the alchemist Fire have.
Alchemist Fire normally do 1d6 fire dmg and 1 splash dmg.
With Throw Anything and the above Alchemist it would be...
1d6 + 10 + 5 from favorite class +1 point blank = 1d6 +16
Splash damage 17 dmg
So in one round with 6 attacks it still would be
6d6 + 96
And the Sticky Bomb dmg would be 17 x 6 = 102
If Im wrong on anything please say it. Thanks
| Karse |
Sticky bombs and your favored class bonus would only apply to bombs. Your Int would apply, though. So, Alchemist fire would deal 1d6+11 and would not be sticky.
Also, temporary buffs (like the cognotagen) would not add bomb uses, so you'd have 17 bombs per day.
Oh ok. Soo no Sticky on Alchemist Fire. Right just 17 bombs then. Thanks. :)