Pre-reqs for Rope of Entanglement

[seebs]

SRD wrote:

Craft Wondrous Item, animate objects, animate rope or entangle

Is this three requirements, one of which is either of two spells, or two requirements, one of which is either of three spells?

Note that if it's three requirements, only bards can create these, because animate objects is cleric and bard, animate rope is bard and sor/wiz, and entangle is ranger and druid. So a bard could know both animate rope and animate objects, but no one else could (excluding multiclass characters).

[Zhayne]

It says 'or', which I interpret as 'this OR this OR this'. So, any one of the three.

[Jeraa]

seebs wrote:

Note that if it's three requirements, only bards can create these, because animate objects is cleric and bard, animate rope is bard and sor/wiz, and entangle is ranger and druid. So a bard could know both animate rope and animate objects, but no one else could (excluding multiclass characters).

Even if all 3 spells were required, every caster (and any non-caster with the Master Craftsman feat) can still make the rope. Not meeting a prerequisite just adds +5 the the DC to make the item.

[seebs]

The ambiguity is that "a, b or c" typically means "a and (b or c)", because otherwise it'd be "a, b, or c".

Typically.

The +5 DC to skip a prerequisite is probably not available in our campaign, after I pointed out that I can accelerated-craft an item with a normal CL above my level and a spell that's not on my spell list and be unable to fail even if I roll a 1 on my spellcraft check. And yes, I'm pretty sure that, RAW, I can ignore the "not high enough level", because the only prerequisite which is *required* is the feat, sayeth the rules.

Note that I'm fine with the GM limiting that, I'm a wizard, I have nearly all the spells to begin with, and I can have people help out if I need to.

(Last downtime between adventures, the limiting factor on spell acquisition ended up being "time it takes to write the spells down".)

[Are]

I'm pretty sure they'd write "a, and either b or c" if that's what they meant.

I'm definitely sure they wouldn't expect people to see "a, b or c" and "a, b, or c" as different in a rules-context.

[MacGurcules]

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