| Knight Magenta |
So basically, PF is really bad at using its own keywords. I am pretty sure "As part of a full attack" refers to full attacks using manufactured weapons. Its just a reminder of how natural attacks work. Unless the trait is creating a new class of natural attacks that is neither primary nor secondary, the bite must be one or the other.
We know it is not secondary, since it would not need to qualify the -5 with a "as part of a full attack". By process of elimination, it must be a primary attack.
Thus, the following is true:
-> If you make an attack with the bite: Full bab, Full strength bonus.
-> If you make a full attack with bite and claws: Full bab bite and claws, Full strength bonus
-> If you make a full attack with bite, one claw and a longsword: Full bab for the longsword, -5 to hit for claw and bite, 1/2 strength bonus on claw and bite, full strength on longsword.
| Skylancer4 |
Wasn't there a thread awhile back about the relative power of the trait (versus let's say the feat which does the same thing but is restricted to one race)? The fact that what it granted was the same as the feat for less? I want to say someone from Paizo poked their head in and suggested it be an exception to the rule of bites being primary, which is along the lines of what a trait should offer.
| Skylancer4 |
It is not called out as secondary.
As default, it is Primary.
Reading something in the description that isn't there, to make exceptions, doesn't help.
It is primary, and should be treated as such.
If used by itself sure.
As soon as you full attack even with other natural attacks as there is no exemption it is used with a -5. It doesn't 'act' like a primary attack then, RAW.