Spells for an Oracle dipping Paladin


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Is there a list of Oracle spells that aren't also Paladin spells? I'm thinking a Oath of Vengeance Paladin with either a four level dip into Life Oracle, or a one level dip w/ Extra Revelation feat if there aren't any worthwhile static 2nd level Oracle spells would be an interesting way of sucking party damage into the Paladin.


Oracles use the Cleric Spell list, and they have a lot of spells that Paladins don't. The feat Unsanctioned Knowledge should prove that.


For your dip, maybe Law oracle to add Charisma to AC and Reflex instead of Dex?

For spells- Obscuring Mist? Hide from Undead? Shield of Faith?


Life oracle was chosen specifically for life link and channel.


You know that Oracle Channel doesn't stack with Paladin channel?

I'm not convinced about the value of Life Link- seems that as levels get higher that five points would get less and less useful.


ZanThrax wrote:
Is there a list of Oracle spells that aren't also Paladin spells? I'm thinking a Oath of Vengeance Paladin with either a four level dip into Life Oracle, or a one level dip w/ Extra Revelation feat if there aren't any worthwhile static 2nd level Oracle spells would be an interesting way of sucking party damage into the Paladin.

My Paladin is a Tiefling 1st level Oracle (Lore) / 19th level Oath Against Fiends, Oath of Vengeance Paladin (or will be when he finishes leveling up one day. The one level dip of Oracle was to reflect the time spent raised in seclusion by Dwarven Clerics of Torag (long story), but the spells that I took were:

0 - Spark, Detect Magic, Guidance, Light
1st - Know the Enemy, Protection vs. Evil

Part of the reason I took the Oracle dip was for the Sidestep Secret - use Charisma instead of Dex for AC and Reflex saves. Seemed to fit perfectly. The Legalistic curse also seemed ideal for the character. As for spell selection I'd generally try to shy away from anything that might require a save and lean towards things that might be useful outside of combat - Paladins tear it up pretty well already.

I'd be happy to show you the build if you wish.


GM Arkwright wrote:

You know that Oracle Channel doesn't stack with Paladin channel?

I'm not convinced about the value of Life Link- seems that as levels get higher that five points would get less and less useful.

I'm thinking of it as fast healing 5 for as many party members need it. Fey heritage means that out of combat healing is more efficiently used by first transferring everyone else's damage to me, and on combat a paladin is damned hard to kill unless he's prevented from acting. Spells do a better job at transferring damage but are a much more limited resource and have durations.

Path of vengeance means no paladin channelling to begin with.

Cha to AC is very nice, but having a great AC just encourages enemies to target squishies instead.


ZanThrax wrote:
GM Arkwright wrote:

You know that Oracle Channel doesn't stack with Paladin channel?

I'm not convinced about the value of Life Link- seems that as levels get higher that five points would get less and less useful.

I'm thinking of it as fast healing 5 for as many party members need it. Fey heritage means that out of combat healing is more efficiently used by first transferring everyone else's damage to me, and on combat a paladin is damned hard to kill unless he's prevented from acting. Spells do a better job at transferring damage but are a much more limited resource and have durations.

Path of vengeance means no paladin channelling to begin with.

Cha to AC is very nice, but having a great AC just encourages enemies to target squishies instead.

Generally speaking, foes target the biggest threats, not necessarily the softest targets.

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