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Alright, in the new shattered star campaign, i have a samsaran who has touched the runelord of lust's body and been linted to that clone body. If he dies, he comes back in her body, and loses his samsaran body, and comes back as an azlanti. now. he has the mystic past life, giving him extra spells. These spells are pretty intrinsic to his character build, and without them the build would not work really. He is asking if he dies, and goes into the body, would he lose these spells? It says he loses all racial abilities, however the mystic past life are spells he learned in a previous life and carried over. RAW< yes, he'd lose them, but would it be out of the question to let him keep those spells? That would make sense at least, as that is a mental carryover, not a physical racial trait.
In regards to this, how would this affect someone using a racial archetype or using racial feats? Would they lose the use of all of those? I could see this as potentially character destroying.
your thoughts?
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I'd say yes, he does lose the abilities and spells he gets as a Samsaren. He also loses access to any racial feats (though I'd let him reselect feats). Sorshen's brain is Azlanti, not Samsaren, it doesn't function in the same way and doesn't have the needed parts to access those past life memories. In return he gets +2 Str, +2 Dex, +4 Con, +2 Cha, a bonus feat and +1 skill point per level. Seems like a fair deal.
Also, he should be 6th-7th lvl at that point in the campaign? While his character may no longer be able to follow his planned build, adjusting to unexpected events is part of what makes the game fun. It might make his life a little more interesting, but character destroying is maybe a bit strong.
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This sounds like a collection of houserules.
Not at all, this is an event from the Shattered Star Paizo AP.
+4 Con? I thought Azlanti just got +2 to every stat?
Hmmm alright, now here's a non-rules question, but more of a conceptual one. The character is a Samsaran, and to him, the player has said that the reincarnation and rebirth cycle the Samsarans go through is extremely important. Would being transferred to this new body, prevent him from being reborn again, if he should die? Effectively preventing his continued reincarnations? In his words "He would never give up an eternity of reincarnated lives for one different life", and would most likely leave the party, doing his absolute best to find a way to reverse this process before he dies, and loses his birthright. So would being put into this clone body essentially deny him his reincarnation? (not the spell, but the background fluff for the Samsaran).
+4 Con? I thought Azlanti just got +2 to every stat?Hmmm alright, now here's a non-rules question, but more of a conceptual one. The character is a Samsaran, and to him, the player has said that the reincarnation and rebirth cycle the Samsarans go through is extremely important. Would being transferred to this new body, prevent him from being reborn again, if he should die? Effectively preventing his continued reincarnations? In his words "He would never give up an eternity of reincarnated lives for one different life", and would most likely leave the party, doing his absolute best to find a way to reverse this process before he dies, and loses his birthright. So would being put into this clone body essentially deny him his reincarnation? (not the spell, but the background fluff for the Samsaran).
Azlanti do get +2 to every stat, but as Samsarens get -2 Con, +2 Int and +2 Wis I gave the overall changes.
In my opinion he'd return to the Samsaren rebirth cycle if his new Azlanti body died. He's essentially still a Samsaren soul in an Azlanti body. Pharasma won't be fooled by his temporary flesh and bone cage.
It should probably work just like Reincarnate does.
He keeps mental stats, and gains the physical stat adjustments of the current body.
He retains class abilities, skill ranks, and Feats he had previously. I'd count spells as class abilities.
Anything else based on physical attributes is replaced (if your Vishkanya becomes a Dwarf, he's no longer poisonous, for example) but any mental abilities remain.
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Oh, I haven't played through Shattered Star.
In that case, I would go with Rynjin suggestion, and use Reincarnate as your base.
This means that you keep racial archetypes, feats, skills, and proficiencies.
Your racial score adjustments to physical stats change, while racial score adjustments to mental score remain unchanged.