Unarmed Fighter


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Scarab Sages

Unarmed Style, Unarmed Fighter wrote:

At 1st level, a unarmed fighter gains the Improved Unarmed Strike feat and any single style feat as a bonus feat. The unarmed fighter need not meet all the prerequisites of the style feat he chooses, but style feats that grant additional uses of the Elemental Fist feat cannot be taken until the unarmed fighter has that feat.

This ability replaces the bonus feat at 1st level.

If I am reading the RAW correctly, I believe that I can take a style feat like Kirin Strike, unless kirin strike is not a style feat.


The only Style feats are the ones w/ Style in the name. Check out the (), they make it pretty clear:

Spoiler:
Kirin Path (Combat)
You turn knowledge of your enemy into a flawless defense.

Prerequisites: Int 13, Kirin Strike, Kirin Style, Improved Unarmed Strike, Knowledge (arcana) 12 ranks, Knowledge (dungeoneering, local, nature, planes, or religion) 5 ranks.

Benefit: Whenever you make a Knowledge check to identify a creature, even when using Kirin Style, you can take 10 even if stress and distractions would normally prevent you from doing so. While using Kirin Style against a creature you have identified using that feat, if the creature ends its turn within your threatened area, you can spend a use of your attacks of opportunity that round to move up to 5 feet times your Intelligence modifier (minimum 1). You must end your move in a square threatened by the creature. This move does not provoke attacks of opportunity.

Kirin Strike (Combat)
You have read the texts of the perfect way, and know how identify to your enemies' weak spot.

Prerequisites: Int 13, Kirin Style, Improved Unarmed Strike, Knowledge (arcana) 9 ranks, Knowledge (dungeoneering, local, nature, planes, or religion) 3 ranks.

Benefit: You gain a +2 insight bonus on Knowledge checks made to identify creatures, including the one Kirin Style allows. While using Kirin Style against a creature you have identified using that feat, as a swift action after you have hit a creature with a melee or ranged attack, you can add twice your Intelligence modifier in damage (minimum 2).

Kirin Style (Combat, Style)
Your study and your grace allows you to exploit your enemies' weaknesses.

Prerequisites: Improved Unarmed Strike, Knowledge (arcana) 6 ranks, Knowledge (dungeoneering, local, nature, planes, or religion) 1 rank.

Benefit: While using this style, you can spend a swift action to make a Knowledge check to identify a single creature (DC 15 + the creature's CR for this purpose). If you succeed at the check, while using this style, you gain a +2 bonus on saving throws against that creature's attacks, as well as a +2 dodge bonus to AC against that creature's attacks of opportunity. These bonuses last for as long as you use this style. If you cease combat with the creature during this time and resume it later, you can attempt the check again.


I (and my GM) see it as no. Allow me to explain.

We read "style" feat to mean the feats that actually say "style", because of THIS. It list "style feats" as just that, the style, not the feats that are in the path.

Now I do not have my copy of UC with me at the moment so I cannot get the page number for you.

Also under master of many styles it has similar language.

Quote:
At 1st level, 2nd level, and every four levels thereafter, a master of many styles may select a bonus style feat or the Elemental Fist feat. He does not have to meet the prerequisites of that feat, except the Elemental Fist feat. Alternatively, a master of many styles may choose a feat in that style’s feat path (such as Earth Child Topple) as one of these bonus feats if he already has the appropriate style feat (such as Earth Child Style). The master of many styles does not need to meet any other prerequisite of the feat in the style’s feat path.

This is where we define "style feat" (in the second bold). It clearly mention a "style feat" is something such as "Earth Child Style" (has style in the name), while something like "Earth Child Topple" is called out as a feat "in that style's feat path"

EDIT:Streamofthesky you beat me to it :P

Scarab Sages

Thank you very much. That makes sense. : )

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