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At 1st level, as part of a full-attack action, a maneuver master can make one additional combat maneuver, regardless of whether the maneuver normally replaces a melee attack or requires a standard action. The maneuver master uses his monk level in place of his base attack bonus to determine his CMB for the bonus maneuvers, though all combat maneuver checks suffer a –2 penalty when using a flurry.
At 8th level, a maneuver master may attempt a second additional combat maneuver, with an additional –3 penalty on combat maneuver checks.
At 15th level, a maneuver master may attempt a third additional combat maneuver, with an additional –7 penalty on combat maneuver checks.
Does this mean that at 15th level your combat maneuvers are all at -12?
No, I think they messed it up a bit, I suspect it was to follow the usual itterative attack sequence, as described it will come down to -2, -5, -9.
By strict interpretation of RAW yes, you get 3 FREE combat maneuvers but they're all at a -12. You could do only 2 FREE with -5 or only a single one with -2.
Remember, they're free, in additon to anything else you do.
However CMD is usually absurdly high already and a -12 makes them pretty much auto-miss. Not too great for a maneuver master.
I suppose most GMs would agree that -2 for the first, -5 for second, -12 for the third is what was intented and makes more sense, best ask your GM.
By strict interpretation of RAW yes, you get 3 FREE combat maneuvers but they're all at a -12. You could do only 2 FREE with -5 or only a single one with -2.
Remember, they're free, in additon to anything else you do.
However CMD is usually absurdly high already and a -12 makes them pretty much auto-miss. Not too great for a maneuver master.I suppose most GMs would agree that -2 for the first, -5 for second, -12 for the third is what was intented and makes more sense, best ask your GM.
I'll hit FAQ on this one, it is more than a little confusing.
I'll hit FAQ on this one, it is more than a little confusing.By strict interpretation of RAW yes, you get 3 FREE combat maneuvers but they're all at a -12. You could do only 2 FREE with -5 or only a single one with -2.
Remember, they're free, in additon to anything else you do.
However CMD is usually absurdly high already and a -12 makes them pretty much auto-miss. Not too great for a maneuver master.I suppose most GMs would agree that -2 for the first, -5 for second, -12 for the third is what was intented and makes more sense, best ask your GM.
Excellent. Seems like -2/-7/-12 is how it should be since that would be a normal additional -5 for each subsequent.