Determination Armor Caster Level

[DM Bacon]

What's the Caster Level of Determination Armor? (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items/magic-armor/magic-armor-and-shield-spe cial-abilities/determination)? Would it heal the minimum of 5d8+1?

Thanks!

[ryric]

10th, according to the description.

PRD wrote:

Determination: A shield or armor with this property provides the ability to fight on against seemingly impossible odds. Once per day, when the owner reaches 0 or fewer hit points, the item automatically provides a breath of life spell.

Moderate conjuration; CL 10th; Craft Magic Arms and Armor, breath of life; Price +30,000 gp

(emphasis mine)

[nnevermore]

Minimum would be 5d8+10

Breath of life: 5d8 +1 per caster lvl. Minimum caster lvl is 10

[DM Bacon]

TY for the quick, quick, quick response. There was a disagreement about whether or not you could deliberately lower your caster level on casting a spell into an item. I thought it was +10 but just wanted to make sure.

[downlobot]

Sorry to rez, but I was hoping to build this armor at some point. If I built a set of this armor at level 10 (5d8+10) could I come back to it at level 15 to give it a small bump the CL pool (5d8+15) (and then 20 etc)? If yes, estimates on cost? Or is it just magic items have their caster level, even if you crafted this armor at level 20 it would still be 5d8+10?

Thanks!

[Rynjin]

If you recrafted the whole suit of armor you could bump the caster level. For a suitable price increase, I believe.

[downlobot]

So it wouldn't function like bumping a +1 to a +2, but like building a whole new +1?

[Rynjin]

Yeah, because the caster level is determined when you make it.

[downlobot]

That's disappointing. Thanks, though!

[Protoman]

downlobot wrote:

Sorry to rez, but I was hoping to build this armor at some point. If I built a set of this armor at level 10 (5d8+10) could I come back to it at level 15 to give it a small bump the CL pool (5d8+15) (and then 20 etc)? If yes, estimates on cost? Or is it just magic items have their caster level, even if you crafted this armor at level 20 it would still be 5d8+10?

Thanks!

Sure that's doable. Important thing is to figure out how the got 30,000 gp for CL 10 first. Luckily did that a while ago on another thread:

Caster level 10 x 5th levels spell x 2000 gp use-activated x 1/5 once per day x 1.5 modifier for sticking extra effect on an existing magic item = +30,000 gp for 5d8+10.

So for level 15:
Caster level 15 x 5th levels spell x 2000 gp use-activated x 1/5 once per day x 1.5 modifier for sticking extra effect on an existing magic item = +45,000 gp for 5d8+15.

And for level 20:
Caster level 20 x 5th levels spell x 2000 gp use-activated x 1/5 once per day x 1.5 modifier for sticking extra effect on an existing magic item = +60,000 gp for 5d8+20.

So if your GM is cool with it, just pay the difference in pricing when updating armor.